What Angle Ensures a Bomb Hits Its Target When Released from a Moving Plane?

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The problem involves a bomb being released from a horizontally flying plane at a specific altitude, with the goal of determining the angle of release required for the bomb to hit a target on the ground. The context includes kinematic equations and considerations of projectile motion, specifically addressing the horizontal distance traveled and the angle of release.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the range of the bomb and express confusion regarding the angle of release. Some question the phrasing of the problem, suggesting that it may be asking for the angle at which the bomb hits the target rather than the angle of release. Others explore the geometric relationship between the plane, the point of release, and the target, indicating a potential use of trigonometry to find the angle.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some have provided insights into the geometric setup of the problem, while others are still seeking clarification on the requirements of the angle of release. There is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the problem, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note that the problem lacks certain information, such as the distance to the target at the time of release, which complicates the determination of the angle. The specific wording of the problem has also been a point of contention, leading to different interpretations of what is being asked.

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Homework Statement



A plane flies horizontally @ 299 m/s relative to ground.
Altitude: 3450m, level terrain; neglect air resistance.

1: How far from the point vertically under the point of release does the object land (in meters)?

2: At what angle must the bomb be released so that it hits the target at time of release (in °)?

Homework Equations



t = (sqrt(Voy^2 + 2gh) - Voy) / -g

Range = Vox(t)

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the above, I correctly figured 7933.83 m for the range. It's the angle part that's screwing me.

Now, because the y-component of that object's velocity is zero at release, I was able to answer #1 without breaking anything down. But I have not a clue as to how to find that damn angle.
 
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I assume they want the bomb to hit the target nose first. What angle does the velocity make when it hits the target? (Find the velocity components.)
 
Doc Al said:
I assume they want the bomb to hit the target nose first. What angle does the velocity make when it hits the target? (Find the velocity components.)

I'm really not sure what I'm doing on this one. Would you mind starting me off a bit?
 
exi said:

Homework Statement



A plane flies horizontally @ 299 m/s relative to ground.
Altitude: 3450m, level terrain; neglect air resistance.

1: How far from the point vertically under the point of release does the object land (in meters)?

2: At what angle must the bomb be released so that it hits the target at time of release (in °)?

Homework Equations



t = (sqrt(Voy^2 + 2gh) - Voy) / -g

Range = Vox(t)

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the above, I correctly figured 7933.83 m for the range. It's the angle part that's screwing me.

Now, because the y-component of that object's velocity is zero at release, I was able to answer #1 without breaking anything down. But I have not a clue as to how to find that damn angle.


To me the second question does not make sense. First, the bomb cannot hit the target at the time of release! Second, I have the *feeling* that they mean to ask the angle at which it hits the target, not at which it is released, but I can't tell for sure. Third, if they want an angle of release, they have to give more information (how far the target is when th ebomb is released and more stuff as well). is this the way is exactly phrased??
 
nrqed said:
To me the second question does not make sense. First, the bomb cannot hit the target at the time of release! Second, I have the *feeling* that they mean to ask the angle at which it hits the target, not at which it is released, but I can't tell for sure. Third, if they want an angle of release, they have to give more information (how far the target is when th ebomb is released and more stuff as well). is this the way is exactly phrased??

It really is worded like that. "At what angle from the vertical at the point of release must the telescopic bomb sight be set so that the bomb hits the target ... ?" The distance to target is 7933.83 m as figured from the first half of the problem, and the rest of the info is in my post. I'm just having a hard time figuring out what to use and where.
 
exi said:
It really is worded like that. "At what angle from the vertical at the point of release must the telescopic bomb sight be set so that the bomb hits the target ... ?" The distance to target is 7933.83 m as figured from the first half of the problem, and the rest of the info is in my post. I'm just having a hard time figuring out what to use and where.

So now you have right triangle composed of a vertical line from the plane to a point directly below on the ground and a horizontal line from that point to the target. The bomb sight points from the plane to the target along the hypotenuse. You know the length of both of these sides and want to find the angle at the corner where the plane is. Sounds like trig to me.
 
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exi said:
It really is worded like that. "At what angle from the vertical at the point of release must the telescopic bomb sight be set so that the bomb hits the target ... ?" The distance to target is 7933.83 m as figured from the first half of the problem, and the rest of the info is in my post. I'm just having a hard time figuring out what to use and where.

AHHH! It makes a HUGE difefrence to mention the telescopic bomb sight!:rolleyes:
You just have to find the angle at which the target appears from the bomb's point of view when the bomb is released. Dick explained it. It has nothing to do with physics at this point, it's just trigonometry.
 
Dick said:
So now you have right triangle composed of a vertical line from the plane to a point directly below on the ground and a horizontal line from that point to the target. The bomb sight points from the plane to the target along the hypotenuse. You know the length of both of these sides and want to find the angle at the corner where the plane is. Sounds like trig to me.

nrqed said:
AHHH! It makes a HUGE difefrence to mention the telescopic bomb sight!:rolleyes:
You just have to find the angle at which the target appears from the bomb's point of view when the bomb is released. Dick explained it. It has nothing to do with physics at this point, it's just trigonometry.

Yeah, sorry for screwing up the original question by trying to over-Cliffs Notes it.

tan^-1 (7933.8264 / 3450) = 66.498° it is.

Thanks. o:)
 

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