What Are Orbits, Subshells, and the Shielding Effect in Chemistry?

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The discussion revolves around the terminology related to atomic structure in chemistry, specifically focusing on the concepts of orbits, subshells, and the shielding effect. Participants seek clarification on the definitions and relationships between these terms, exploring their implications in the context of electron configuration.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the boxes filled with up and down arrows represent electrons, while the boxes themselves correspond to subshells within a principal energy level.
  • Others clarify that the term "orbit" is often used to describe regions where electrons reside, but electrons do not actually orbit the nucleus in a circular manner.
  • A participant questions whether the terms shell and subshell are interchangeable, leading to further confusion about the definitions.
  • There is a discussion about the ambiguity of the term "orbital," with some suggesting it can refer to specific orbitals like 2p or to the broader concept of subshells.
  • One participant expresses frustration over conflicting definitions and seeks to understand the distinctions between shells, subshells, and orbitals.
  • Clarifications are made that shells are defined by principal quantum numbers (n=1, n=2, etc.), while subshells correspond to types of orbitals (s, p, d, f, etc.).

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of subshells and orbitals, with multiple competing views and ongoing confusion about the terminology. Some agree on certain definitions, while others challenge or refine those definitions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of terminology, with participants expressing uncertainty about the meanings of subshell and orbital. The definitions appear to depend on context and may vary among different sources.

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I was reading my textbook and was confused on the terminology, is an orbit each of those boxes that you fill up with the up and down arrow, and the subshell is like s, p, d, f, g, h?

I was also confused about what the shielding effect is.

If anyone can enlighten me that would be great, thanks
 
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The up and down arrows denote the electrons themselves. The arrows represent the angular spin of the individual electrons. The boxes are representations of the subshells within the particular 'shell' or principal energy level. Sometimes the principal energy levels are drawn as circular 'orbits' but the electrons don't really orbit the nucleus. They reside in regions of space that trace out various shapes like spheres, dumbells and so forth.

Electrons in the outermost 'shells', being negatively charged, have a columbic attraction to the positively-charged nucleus. The magnitude of that attraction is governed by the number of protons present in the nucleus (obviously!) and the effectiveness of the lower lying electrons in their 'shells' to screen that positive charge. After all, the negatively charged outer electrons are both attracted to the positively-charged nucleus and repelled by the negatively-charged inner shell electrons. The net effect is that the outermost electrons still are attracted to the positively-charged nucleus but the magnitude of that attraction, or Zeff[/s], is diminished somewhat. It's called the shielding effect.
 
Ok so a shell is s, p, d, f, g, h? And a subshell is each one of the boxes. Meaning, the P shell contains 3 boxes or subshells? And the orbit is another name for shell?
 
Woopydalan said:
Ok so a shell is s, p, d, f, g, h?
No.
And a subshell is each one of the boxes. Meaning, the P shell contains 3 boxes or subshells?
Yes.
And the orbit is another name for shell?
Try this.
 
Ok wow so I have thought this whole time that the electrons travel in circles around the energy levels haha.

Ok so my understanding of that article then is that the s,p,d,g,f are actually orbitals? Then 1s,2s,2p, etc are shells?
 
Orbital is ambiguous - for example it can mean both 2p or any of 2px, 2py or 2pz.

Shell is something larger.
 
ok so 2p is an orbital, the box is a subshell, then what is a shell??
 
Why did the other guy say the box is a subshell and now you say its not a subshell. No wonder I'm so confused, you chemists can't make up your mind!

Ok so the wikipedia article says K, M, etc are shells (which are associated with l), and the subshells are s,p,d,g,h,f. Then what are the orbitals? Are those the boxes with the up and down arrows?
 
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English is my second language and I am not 100% sure about the exact meaning of a subshell. As I wrote before - orbital is ambiguous and can mean two things. Perhaps subshell is just a synonym of orbital (so it can be both a single box, or collection of boxes), but I was always under impression that subshell is a "large" orbital, so it can mean 2p, but not 2px.
 
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ok my book makes it sound like s,p,d,g,f,h are subshells, which jives with what you were saying. Orbital you said was ambiguous, now what is a Shell (NOT SUBSHELL!)? Or a shell is n=1, n=2, etc?
 
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Woopydalan said:
Or a shell is n=1, n=2, etc?

Yes.
 
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alright thanks! It only took me 11 posts and 2 professional chemists and a lot of headache to figure out that little concept :P
 

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