What are Quotient Spaces and How Are They Used in Algebra and Topology?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of quotient spaces and quotient algebras, exploring their definitions, examples, and applications in algebra and topology. Participants seek clarification on the differences between various types of algebras and how quotient structures are formed within them.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about quotient algebra and requests concrete examples to understand the concept better.
  • Another participant questions the term "quotient algebra," noting that there are different kinds of algebras, such as universal algebras and associative algebras.
  • A participant explains that for an algebra A and an ideal I in A, the quotient algebra A/I is defined by a relation that identifies elements based on their difference being in I, establishing it as an equivalence relation.
  • Another participant reiterates the definition of quotient algebra A/I and emphasizes that in universal algebras, the concept of ideals is replaced by congruences, seeking clarification on which definition of algebra the original poster meant.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of "quotient algebra," and there are competing views regarding the types of algebras and their structures. The discussion remains unresolved as participants seek further clarification.

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Limitations include the lack of clarity on the specific type of algebra being referenced and the potential confusion surrounding the definitions of ideals and congruences in different algebraic contexts.

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I'm having some troubles understanding the concepts of quotient algebra.
May someone explain me what exactly they are, giving some concrete examples?

I know that a quotient set is the set of all equivalence classes, but it sounds very vague for me and i can't make the analogy with quotient spaces, or quotient groups.
 
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what do you mean by "quotient algebra"? there are different kinds of algebras:

1. universal algebras (defined by a set and a signature of arity, and identities involving n-ary operations, etc.)
2. associative algebras (vector spaces with an associative ring structure).
 
Deveno said:
what do you mean by "quotient algebra"?
If A is an algebra and I is an ideal in A, the quotient algebra A/I is defined in the following way. Define a relation ~ on A by saying that x~y if x-y is a member of I. It's easy to show that ~ is an equivalence relation. The equivalence class that contains x is denoted by x+I. The set of all equivalence classes is given the structure of an algebra by the definitions

(x+I)+(y+I)=(x+y)+I
a(x+I)=(ax)+I
(x+I)(y+I)=xy+I
 
Fredrik said:
If A is an algebra and I is an ideal in A, the quotient algebra A/I is defined in the following way. Define a relation ~ on A by saying that x~y if x-y is a member of I. It's easy to show that ~ is an equivalence relation. The equivalence class that contains x is denoted by x+I. The set of all equivalence classes is given the structure of an algebra by the definitions

(x+I)+(y+I)=(x+y)+I
a(x+I)=(ax)+I
(x+I)(y+I)=xy+I

yes, that follows by definition 2. in the algebras of type 1, you generally don't have ideals, but rather congruences. i was asking "which" definition of algebra he meant.
 

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