What Are Riemann-Stieltjes Integrals and How Can We Visualize Them?

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The discussion centers on Riemann-Stieltjes integrals, specifically their visualization and application in probability theory. The integral is defined as ∫f dF, where F is an increasing function on a closed interval [a,b], and it generalizes the Riemann integral by allowing for functions that determine interval sizes. Key concepts include the upper Darboux-Stieltjes sum and the handling of point masses in probability distributions, exemplified by a random variable X with a discrete probability at a specific point. The Riemann-Stieltjes integral effectively unifies sums and integrals, accommodating impulse functions like the Dirac delta function.

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I'm having trouble visualizing the riemann-stieltjies integral...

Our textbook states:

We assume throughout this section that F is an increasing function on a closed interval [a,b]. To avoid trivialities we assume F(a)<F(b). All left-hand and right-hand limits exist...We use the notation

F(t^-)= lim_{x \rightarrow t^-} F(x) and F(t^+)= lim_{x \rightarrow t^+} F(x)

For a bounded function f on [a,b] and a partition P={a=t_0 &lt; t_1 &lt; ... &lt; t_n = b} of [a,b], we write

J_F(f,P) = \sum_{k=0}^n f(t_k) [F(t_k^+) - F(t_k^-)]

The upper Darboux-Stieltjes sum is

U_F(f,P) = J_F(f,P) + \sum_{k=1}^n max(f, (t_{k-1}, t_k) [F(t_k^+) - F(t_{k-1}^-)]

I'm having trouble visualizing this...also, by F(x), do they mean the integral of f(x)?

Thanks in advance
 
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No F (a confusing choice of variable) is a function that determines the size of intervals. In a Riemann integral
∫f dx
the interval [a,b] has size b-a
In a Riemann-Stieltjies integral
∫f dF
the interval [a,b] has size F(b+)- F(a-)

and of course when F(x)=x the Riemann-Stieltjies integral reduces to the Riemann integral

This is helpful in many ways.
-We can take sums as a type of integral and unify sums and integrals
-We can have impulse function like the Dirac delta function which concentrate a change to a single point.
 
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lurflurf said:
No F (a confusing choice of variable) is a function that determines the size of intervals. In a Riemann integral
∫f dx
the interval [a,b] has size b-a
In a Riemann-Stieltjies integral
∫f dF
the interval [a,b] has size F(b+)- F(a-)

and of course when F(x)=x the Riemann-Stieltjies integral reduces to the Riemann integral

This is helpful in many ways.
-We can take sums as a type of integral and unify sums and integrals
-We can have impulse function like the Dirac delta function which concentrate a change to a single point.

Thanks a lot...is it ok if you give an example or something? So I can understand the difference better (between usual Reimann integrals and Reimann-Stieltjes Integrals)?
 
Artusartos said:
is it ok if you give an example or something?

Something short of a complete example:

I see from your other posts that you know something about statistics. Suppose we have a random variable X whose distribution is defined by the statement:

There is a 0.3 probability that X = 0.5 and if X is not equal to 0.5 then the other possibilities for X are uniformly distributed on the intervals [0,0.5) and (0.5, 1].

How would you compute the expected value a function f(X) ? ( e.g. the case f(X) = X would be the expected value of X). I think the common sense way is;

\bar{f(x)} = (0.3) f(0.5) + (1.0 - 0.3) \ ( \ (0.5) \int_0^{0.5} f(x) u_1(x) dx + (0.5) \int_{0.5}^{1} f(x) u_2(x) dx\ )

Where u_1(x) is the uniform distribution on [0,0.5) and u_2(x) is the uniform distribution on (0.5, 1] and the integrals are Riemann integrals.

It would be convenient to define a single distribution function for X and write \bar{f(x)} as a single integral (even if the practical computation of that integral amounted to the work above). However, a Riemann integral can't handle the "point mass" probability at X = 0.5 because, in a manner of speaking, it sits on a rectangle whose base has zero length.

From the viewpoint of probability theory, a Riemann-Stieljes integral can be regarded as way of defining a new form of integration that handles such "point masses". ( You can define a nondecresasing function F(x) which has a jump of size 0.3 at x = 0.5 )
 

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