What are some of the more exotic things you learn for a degree in physics?

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The discussion explores the advanced and exotic subjects studied in physics degrees, particularly in relation to engineering applications. Participants consider the relevance of various physics topics, including quantum physics and its potential impact on engineering innovation.

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  • One participant expresses curiosity about advanced subjects in physics beyond fundamental topics like mechanics and gravity, questioning their relevance to engineering.
  • Another participant suggests that studying exotic physics could lead to innovative engineering solutions, referencing historical figures like Tesla and Edison as examples of how unexpected areas of study can yield significant advancements.
  • There is a proposal that engineers interested in physics should focus on quantum computing, as it may have transformative potential for technology and engineering.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of quantum computing for its implications in encryption and complex problem-solving, suggesting it could revolutionize fields like aerospace and astrophysics.
  • Some participants question the necessity of studying certain physics topics, such as General Relativity, in the context of engineering applications.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of various physics topics to engineering, with some advocating for a focus on quantum physics while others question the utility of studying more traditional physics subjects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which areas of physics are most beneficial for engineers.

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Participants highlight the uncertainty surrounding the future applications of physics in engineering and the potential for unexpected areas of study to yield significant advancements. There is also a recognition of the subjective nature of interest-driven learning.

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Partly inspired by - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=483456&page=2"

I'm curious, so putting mechanics/waves/fluids/gravity...basically all the fundamental learning material of physics, what are some of the more advanced or exotic subjects physicists study about for their physics degrees? Are there any fancy stuff that could possibly relate to engineering, or are way outside the realm of engineering?
 
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How could engineers have know that 19th century experiments on electricity and radiation could open up such lucrative branches of engineering? There's no knowing what physics/mathematics might be useful -any of it could be - which is why capitalist societies throw a lot of tax money at physics/mathematics and allow strange and exotic subject to be studied.

So the engineer wanting to study "more physics" is right - it might lead to really innovative engineering. It might be a way to become a new Tesla or Edison! My wild guess would be to study stuff that is strange, hardly understood, but might have a *big* impact on the world.

If I were an engineer wanting to be the new Edison/Gates I would be avidly looking at quantum physics to see if quantum computing could be brought to reality. I think it would be far better to read all you can on quantum computing (if that idea floats your boat...) rather than trying to learn all the physics that a physicist learns. Learning, beyond what you're forced to learn, should be driven by problems that interest you - not by an arbitrary desire just to learn wht the guy next door is learning. Where's the fun in that? What use is that? Did Edison try to learn everything that Einstein knew, or vice versa. Of course not! They had better and more useful, and more fun, things to do.

For instance, I can't see how General Relativity might lead to "the next big engineering feat", so why on Earth would I study that in the depth that a physicist might...

Interesting that Bill Gates and Tim Berners-Lee didn't need any physics to become the biggest cheeses in the cutting-edge engineering of their time! So maybe the potential Edison needs to study cognitive science, or linguistics, or sociology (facebook!), or... who knows? Then again, maybe it's time for physics to make a come back in engineering...
 
Reply of the year, mal4 :)

Curious to hear more feedback...

What's so special about quantum computing that it seems to be a focus of yours, if I may ask?
 
It is quite literally the future of computing. There is a lot of interest in this, partly because you can take over the world if you make the first quantum computer and factor the huge primes associated with modern encryption. Also, anyone who needs intense computations done to solve problems, like aerospace engineers or astrophysicists, will be interested in this as well.

There's more stuff, but I think the main thing is to help scientists and engineers develop better theoretical models and for the obvious crypto applications.
 

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