What are some specific examples of emergence?

[eranb2]

Hi

I was reading about interactions.
It is about the third law, action and reaction.
but, If molecules just act on each other in just automatic ways, then how can things emerge?

How does emergence happens?
It must be special ways of interaction, not simple interactions but complex ones.

When people say "complex interactions" what do the mean?

What is complex?
the direction? power? time?



Thanks

 

[NoobixCube]

Since many people have looked at this with no replies, I will give it a crack. Basically, your post is slightly ambigous. Are you asking about how complex systems can arise out of simple interactions?

If this is the case, then you need to read about complex systems. Below is the first few lines from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_system" :

A complex system is a system composed of interconnected parts that as a whole exhibit one or more properties (behavior among the possible properties) not obvious from the properties of the individual parts[citation needed]. This characteristic of every system is called emergence and is true of any system, not just complex ones.

A system’s complexity may be of one of two forms: disorganized complexity and organized complexity.[1] In essence, disorganized complexity is a matter of a very large number of parts, and organized complexity is a matter of the subject system (quite possibly with only a limited number of parts) exhibiting emergent properties.



But I think what you question is tending toward is the self-organization of a system:

"Self-organization is a process of attraction and repulsion in which the internal organization of a system, normally an open system, increases in complexity without being guided or managed by an outside source. Self-organizing systems typically (but not always) display emergent properties."
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization"

It is these emergent properties that display "complex interactions".

I hope that is what you are asking and that this post helps

 

[eranb2]

Hi

Thanks a lot for the reply.

What I meant is not the words emergent or complex or system, not talking about the
general idea but to ask specificly , what is interaction?


interaction is inter + action.

why or how the interaction makes life?
what is it in the interaction that creates?

Is it the timing, sync ?

Everywhere I go I see the words emergent or complex but people never talk about the details, only the philisopy .

 

[eranb2]

From two separate thing can emerge somthing
From two identical things there is no emergence , why?It is not the sum of the actions but the INTER + ACTION that creates
the emergence.

again, what is really going on "inside" the interaction?

You take some electronic components , you connect them together and you have a radio or television, why?

What is happening? what is emergence?
There is a MAGIC going on, what is it?sync?
organization?
timing?
order?

Thanks

 

[James Leighe]

Hi

Thanks a lot for the reply.

What I meant is not the words emergent or complex or system, not talking about the
general idea but to ask specificly , what is interaction?
You mean particle interaction or what? Your being vague.

interaction is inter + action.
I don't understand what you mean by this.

why or how the interaction makes life?
Evolution as far as we know.
what is it in the interaction that creates?
There are allot of different particles and they interact in a number of different ways, allot of which we understand and some of which we don't.

Is it the timing, sync ?
Without time it's hard to see stuff happening.

Everywhere I go I see the words emergent or complex but people never talk about the details, only the philisopy .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence has a few specific examples.

From two separate thing can emerge somthing
From two identical things there is no emergence , why?
Two identical things can have emergent properties in some situation probably as easily as two different things. You should read the wiki that was linked to you, a concrete example of emergence is mathematical emergence.It is not the sum of the actions but the INTER + ACTION that creates
the emergence.
I don't think so. Even if I knew what you meant by 'inter + action'

again, what is really going on "inside" the interaction?
More interactions probably.

You take some electronic components , you connect them together and you have a radio or television, why?
Radios work by absorbing what you can think of as 'invisible light' (radio waves) into their antenna and amplifying the signal so much it can drive a speaker. CRT televisions work by steering electrons magnetically into a cell that is luminescent. These 'interactions' depend on the properties of the particles that are doing the interaction. This is what physics works to understand, both the interactions and what is doing the interactions.

What is happening?
We are learning to understand the world around us I guess.
what is emergence? There is a MAGIC going on, what is it?
Specific behavior in specific situations that is difficult to predict from the constituent parts, due in part to the fact that you can't even know the initial state of all the parts to begin with. Magic is probably a bit extreme, but physics is very interesting.sync?
organization?
timing?
order?
All important parts of the puzzle.Thanks

(Had to type something here because it wasn't letting me post.)

 

[eranb2]

Hi

Thanks for the answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_has_a_few_specific_examples


There is nothing here.

 

[Nabeshin]

Hi

Thanks for the answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence_has_a_few_specific_examples


There is nothing here.

Lol he meant the website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence has a few specific examples, not that was the website..