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The discussion revolves around personal experiences and aspirations related to gardening, encompassing various approaches, challenges, and preferences. Participants share their gardening backgrounds, current practices, and future gardening dreams, touching on both ornamental and edible plants.
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- Exploratory
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant describes a lifelong passion for gardening, emphasizing organic methods and the joy of cultivating fruits and vegetables.
- Another expresses a desire to garden despite living in an apartment, sharing plans for a "salsa garden" with various herbs and vegetables.
- Some participants express skepticism about gardening in urban settings, suggesting alternatives like concrete or Astroturf.
- A participant recounts frustrations with deer damaging their garden, discussing efforts to protect plants with fencing.
- Water restrictions are mentioned as a challenge for maintaining grass and gardens, leading to the use of colored rocks to minimize watering needs.
- One participant shares their struggle to maintain a vegetable garden due to travel, opting instead to focus on flower gardening and specific flower varieties.
- Another participant discusses the challenges of managing overgrown plants and the desire to create a diverse flower garden with various colors and types.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of gardening experiences and preferences, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some favor traditional gardening, while others advocate for alternative methods or express disinterest in gardening altogether.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include varying gardening conditions based on location, personal circumstances, and differing definitions of successful gardening. Some participants face challenges such as wildlife interference and water restrictions, which influence their gardening practices.
Who May Find This Useful
Individuals interested in gardening, whether for food production or ornamental purposes, as well as those navigating urban gardening challenges or seeking inspiration for their own gardening projects.
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Yeah, it has! It was in a death spiral what with all the cold weather, the torrential rains, and the lack of sun. I've got the soil built up as well as can be, though, and all it took was a week or two of heat and sun to perk things up. I'm worried about the habanero plants because they started out really small and seemed to have stalled even though the other peppers are thriving. Habanero relish is my favorite condiment for hot dogs, cheeseburgers, etc, and it's really going to stink if the crop comes up short.rewebster said:your garden has really taken off, it looks like, turbo
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I'll have to start raising those to keep the rabbit-foraging to a minimum.baywax said:If and when small dogs or rats are ruining the garden we are lucky enough to have
the wide-mouthed wood ducks to eliminate the problem.
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turbo-1 said:I'll have to start raising those to keep the rabbit-foraging to a minimum.![]()
Your garden is the best Turbo...
What do you do about the "Tomato Horn Worm"... I found one huge one that had taken 2 tomato plants out... it was almost transparent with leaf juice... very fat and about the size of this one... with a big black horn on its backside..
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Those are scary!baywax said:If and when small dogs or rats are ruining the garden we are lucky enough to have
the wide-mouthed wood ducks to eliminate the problem.
My assasin bug killed most of them and I picked off the others. Those things are voracious eaters.baywax said:Your garden is the best Turbo...
What do you do about the "Tomato Horn Worm"... I found one huge one that had taken 2 tomato plants out... it was almost transparent with leaf juice... very fat and about the size of this one... with a big black horn on its backside..
turbo, wish I had some birds in my plants, that's a pretty one.
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The phoebes generally catch their food "on the fly" and I have seen them catch Japanese beetles in mid-air. The yellowthroats are pretty content to patrol my vegetable plants, and I'm glad to have their help. They are very efficient, and they can find caterpillars and beetles in places that I would have a hard time searching. I'd pay them if I could. Actually, I have two ponds near the garden so they have water available, and the garden is a pretty good "bug magnet" - kind of an insectivore diner.Evo said:turbo, wish I had some birds in my plants, that's a pretty one.
They have a safe place to eat nice bugs that are not laced with insecticide, so in a sense, they are getting "paid".There are more yellowthroat pictures in the Wildlife Photos thread, including a shot of a female with a Japanese beetle in her beak, calling softly to a chick.
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turbo-1 said:![]()
at least we have almost the same types of weeds--except for that five (approx.) leafed one on the middle right, I have never seen that variety around here---what is it?
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I've got to 'fess up... Except for common weeds like plantain, mustard, etc, I'm pretty much ignorant. My rule is "If they ain't vegetables, they's weeds."rewebster said:at least we have almost the same types of weeds--except for that five (approx.) leafed one on the middle right, I have never seen that variety around here---what is it?
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That bell pepper is bigger than my hand. It's a Keystone Giant. The down side is that's the only bell pepper that plant has produced, Perhaps now it will set more.turbo-1 said:Woohoo! I'd like to have a few rows of bell peppers like that. They're coming along nicely, but we need a lot of heat and sun to grow peppers, and getting them to fully mature requires a long and cooperative (no frosts) season.
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Evo said:That bell pepper is bigger than my hand. It's a Keystone Giant. The down side is that's the only bell pepper that plant has produced, Perhaps now it will set more.
you've paid for the plant, now, at least--and home grown!
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Produce prices add up quickly, and you can't buy home-grown quality in a store. If this year's Bell peppers can match last years, I expect at least 6-8 full-sized peppers per plant, with at least half of them ripening or fully ripe. There is nothing like a garden-ripened red Bell pepper chopped into a cold salad!rewebster said:you've paid for the plant, now, at least--and home grown!
The Hungarian Wax peppers are getting quite large and are developing rapidly. We had one tonight in a stir fry of summer squash, onion, parsley, garlic-scape pesto, etc. Mmm! The Hungarians are quite mild but tasty. The heat is about on a par with jalpenos, and they are quite large - maybe 5-6" long even this early in the season. I expect that they will join the jalapenos in my dill-pickled chili recipe.
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Here's a coincidental story about how deadly those caterpillars can be... scarier than the wide-mouthed dingle duck...
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080714/health/health_killer_caterpillars
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She was barefoot in a Peruvian jungle? Or at the least wearing sandles that allowed her feet to touch the ground?baywax said:http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080714/health/health_killer_caterpillars
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baywax, your state has some advantages for cold-tolerant crops like cabbage, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. These plants can be transplanted quite early in the year, and your latitude allows much more sunlight/day than we can get.
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You can't miss mine! The rascals climb 20-30 feet into the trees, so if you want those nice ripe purple grapes, you have to use a ladder for a lot of them. Once the bunches start ripening, they stick out like a sore thumb. Often, the branches of the trees are bent or broken from the weight of all the grapes. Aspen, birch, etc, just aren't built to handle that load.Evo said:I miss my grape vines!
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Evo said:I miss my grape vines!
if you're going to be there where you live (and if you can find a 'safe' route down), plant some down in the 'The Evo Canyon'--they take off pretty well after two years
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They have a guy that goes down there with a weed eater to keep things neat.rewebster said:if you're going to be there where you live (and if you can find a 'safe' route down), plant some down in the 'The Evo Canyon'--they take off pretty well after two years
I have spread some of my plants off of the patio and onto the grass and rocks on the south side. The guy mowing is cool about it. I keep the little bit of grass around them trimmed myself. I just needed more sun.
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Evo said:I miss my grape vines!
Yeah... I totally miss my grape vines. By now they've strangled the barn.
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Borek said:My wine grows like crazy, something like Turbo described. It strangles my lilac at the moment.
It looks like they're strangling your head in the photo!
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I just weeded about 1/2 the garden, and noticed that we have tiny string beans, already about 1" long. Wooh!
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We're growing the sunflowers for the birds - they'll get plenty of seeds. Actually, they get them year-round at my feeders, but it's nice to give them a more natural food-gathering experience. Instead of killing thistles, I let them grow to attract pollinators and eventually to provide wild thistle seeds for the finches. They love those.Borek said:That's only if you don't like sunflowers![]()
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turbo-1 said:We're growing the sunflowers for the birds - they'll get plenty of seeds. Actually, they get them year-round at my feeders, but it's nice to give them a more natural food-gathering experience. Instead of killing thistles, I let them grow to attract pollinators and eventually to provide wild thistle seeds for the finches. They love those.
I get them even growing in my yard in town---but, sorry young thistles, I like going barefoot too much.
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