What are the advantages of using Linux over Windows for PC desktop users?

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The discussion revolves around the advantages and preferences of different operating systems, particularly Linux compared to Windows, among users in mathematics, physics, and engineering fields. Participants share their experiences, preferences, and reasons for choosing specific operating systems, touching on aspects such as usability, software availability, and philosophical considerations regarding open-source software.

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  • Some participants express a preference for Linux due to its availability of libraries and lack of licensing issues, particularly in programming contexts.
  • Others mention nostalgia for older systems like MS-DOS and express a fondness for various Unix-like systems.
  • Several users note the importance of finding suitable applications on Linux to fully transition away from Windows.
  • Some participants highlight the diversity of Linux distributions, with over 350 available, and discuss the merits of popular ones like Fedora and openSUSE.
  • There are differing opinions on the usability of Windows versus Mac, with some arguing that Mac is easier to use while others defend Windows' versatility.
  • Participants discuss the philosophical implications of using open-source software, with some expressing a strong preference for avoiding closed-source applications.
  • There is a debate about the classification of operating systems, with some arguing about the similarities and differences between Unix, Linux, and DOS.

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The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the advantages of different operating systems. There is no consensus on which operating system is superior, as participants express varied preferences based on their specific needs and experiences.

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Participants mention various assumptions about usability, software availability, and philosophical beliefs regarding open-source software, which may influence their preferences but remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Maybe I should have presented this as a poll: But what are the favorite computer operating systems among Mathematics, Physics, and Engineering enthusiasts (students, professionals, teachers, researchers)? Any particular or general reasons why?
 
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Do you really want to know? :-p

Well, MS-DOS is one of my favourites. Nostalgy, I guess.
 
As a student I use linux based systems in my computer engineering courses for hardware based programming in assembly and C/C++. The reason is because it comes with all the needed libraries right from the install so there is no need to go looking for them. And also there are no licensing issues to worry about.
 
IOS... But it was actually made from Unix I believe.

I use *nix at home along with xp and osX. My preference depends on what I am trying to do.. I use osx the most however, and I like the interface, and even more so I like what is under the hood... For Buisness application I prefer Unix or Solaris.
 
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I like a cygwin-windows combination.
 
I've been sticking to Linux for the past few months. I've not tried out all the flavours, so I'm still a newbie. I still have XP sitting for a few things. Once I find apps that can do stuff that I rely XP for, then I will bid farewell to Windows. (Actually, the rest of the world would do that too, if they can find the suitable programs that run on Linux :biggrin:)
 
neutrino said:
I've been sticking to Linux for the past few months. I've not tried out all the flavours, so I'm still a newbie. I still have XP sitting for a few things. Once I find apps that can do stuff that I rely XP for, then I will bid farewell to Windows. (Actually, the rest of the world would do that too, if they can find the suitable programs that run on Linux :biggrin:)

If you want to try all the flavors, you have a long way to go. There are over 350 distros out there ;) If you are looking for win32 equivalent apps, you can look through this list for some suggestion.
 
I don't want to go through all the distros, at least not right now...I'm not that adventurous. May be the most popular ones, with a large user base and support, in the near future, say FC, openSUSE, et.al. In fact, new ones are popping up like mushrooms on a daily basis. There's one distro, and there are two others, which are same excpet for desktop environments, and the one with closed-source stuff pre-installed, and one with no closed-source stuff at all, and then there's one with a religious bias!
 
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...and one with a religious bias!

Could this be Ubuntu for Christians (Ubuntu Christian Edition)? :smile:

I tend to stick with the only open source software (even games!). I dislike having any closed source software on my [linux] machine. IMHO, it goes against the philosophy of GNU/Linux. I tend to limit myself to rpm and pkg based distros only. It helps in the decision process of figuring out what new distro to use next.
 
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ranger said:
Could this be Ubuntu for Christians (Ubuntu Christian Edition)? :smile:

Actually, I listed all the off-shoots of Ubuntu there, including Ubuntu CE. K/X/Ubuntu, Linux Mint, gNewSense and Ubuntu CE.

I tend to stick with the only open source software (even games!). I dislike having any closed source software on my [linux] machine. IMHO, it goes against the philosophy of GNU/Linux. I tend to limit myself to rpm and pkg based distros only. It helps in the decision process of figuring out what new distro to use next.

I just have a few proprietary software on borad (Ubuntu 6.10). Acrobat Reader, Opera, although I Firefox is my browser of choice.
 
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My opinion is that Windows is the worlds best operating system based on the fact that even though it has its downs, it is still designed to be usable for a variety of users ranging from retired to beginners and it isn't that shameful for programming either.

However, as a not-so-generic computer user, I would have to say any open source (ish) system designed for programming, modeling and overall computations. Take your pick.
 
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My opinion is that Windows is the worlds best operating system based on the fact that even though it has its downs,
Actually it really does depend on what systems you want to operate, right? Windows wouldn't be the worlds best operating system for a fridge or perhaps a space shuttle now would it :smile:

Anyway I disaggree and would say that a Mac is far easier to use than windows, (for a desktop pc)... But easy of use for me doesn't equate with best
 
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Anttech said:
Actually it really does depend on what systems you want to operate, right? Windows wouldn't be the worlds best operating system for a fridge or perhaps a space shuttle now would it :smile:

Anyway I disaggree and would say that a Mac is far easier to use than windows, (for a desktop pc)... But easy of use for me doesn't equate with best

True. :smile:

What I meant to say was that Windows is one of the most all around versatile operating systems.
 
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Moridin said:
True. :smile:

What I meant to say was that Windows is one of the most all around versatile operating systems.

It depends on your perception of "all around versatile". :wink:
 
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Waiting on my dual boot Fedora Core--XP laptop right now...
 
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ranger said:
It depends on your perception of "all around versatile". :wink:
:smile: Versatile is what's available that gets the job done with the least amount of aggavation on my part.

In the case of uPs there is no OS, you write your own.

I might note that MS DOS could be considered a variant of UNIX. :-p
 
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I might note that MS DOS could be considered a variant of UNIX.
Why?......
 
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Here's several pictures of my new laptop that will run my "preferred" operating system -- Solaris.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85894987@N00/sets/72157594511620201/
 
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And now we have distros working together
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7103672739.html
 
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I might note that MS DOS could be considered a variant of UNIX.

Not really though. A command line based OS is not like Unix just because of the command line. Its methodology is far different. The only OS that comes close to Unix is Linux (not sure about OSX).
 
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ranger said:
Not really though. A command line based OS is not like Unix just because of the command line. Its methodology is far different. The only OS that comes close to Unix is Linux (not sure about OSX).

With the exception of multitasking, I don't think the methadology is all that different.
Having worked with both, many of the commands and internal functions seem much the same.

Somewhere along the line I seem to recall that UNIX(LINUX), CPM(obsolete for years) and DOS all have roots in IBMs VM operating system.
 
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NoTime said:
With the exception of multitasking, I don't think the methadology is all that different.
Having worked with both, many of the commands and internal functions seem much the same.

Somewhere along the line I seem to recall that UNIX(LINUX), CPM(obsolete for years) and DOS all have roots in IBMs VM operating system.

I'll counter that by saying, having worked with both, the internal functions and commands arent the same :biggrin: Just a quick example, Unix manages its physical devices and hardware components in a different way than DOS- things such as mounting, the /dev directory, physical storage mediums treated as "real" directories.

Unix (1970's) was developed in Bell Labs(AT&T) using the C programming language. Linux was developed in 1991 (independent of IBM). I can only recall that MS DOS, OS/2, and Windows being developed as a result of IBM. IBM had nothing to do with Unix and Linux.
 
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Ubuntu for Christians? Ubuntu has gone a long way since the "porn distro" or was it "nude distro," I can't remember. Ahh, those great ubuntu wallpapers, best time of the month :biggrin:
 
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mattmns said:
Ubuntu for Christians? Ubuntu has gone a long way since the "porn distro" or was it "nude distro," I can't remember. Ahh, those great ubuntu wallpapers, best time of the month :biggrin:

They had a "porn distro"? wow! (And I promise I won't go looking for it). They also have Ubuntu Satanic Edition
 
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:smile: Nah, it was a monthly wallpaper that featured semi-nude models. They stopped using it 2 years ago or so. Because of this some people jokingly called Ubuntu the "porn distro"

*cough* search google for "ubuntu calendar" and you can find some of the wallpapers.
 
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ranger said:
I'll counter that by saying, having worked with both, the internal functions and commands arent the same :biggrin: Just a quick example, Unix manages its physical devices and hardware components in a different way than DOS- things such as mounting, the /dev directory, physical storage mediums treated as "real" directories.

Unix (1970's) was developed in Bell Labs(AT&T) using the C programming language. Linux was developed in 1991 (independent of IBM). I can only recall that MS DOS, OS/2, and Windows being developed as a result of IBM. IBM had nothing to do with Unix and Linux.

I did find this :biggrin:
ironically enough, DOS 2.0 eclipsed CP/M largely because Microsoft's co-founder Paul Allen merged in Unix features including subdirectories and pipes).
 
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IBM was, indeed, fairly late to the UNIX game. They stayed true to the mainframe way until the mid 80s, when they decided to hire several UNIX vendors (Bull and INTERACTIVE UNIX Systems) to integrate various bits of SVR3 and BSD 4.2 and 4.3, where the end result was AIX.
 
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ranger said:
Not really though. A command line based OS is not like Unix just because of the command line. Its methodology is far different. The only OS that comes close to Unix is Linux (not sure about OSX).

OS X is actually much closer to UNIX than Linux is. OS X derives from NeXTSTEP, which was essentially Mach plus various bits from BSD 4.2 or 4.3, and thus can be traced back to one of the Bell Labs' releases of UNIX. Linux, on the other hand, shares no code with any of the derivatives of Bell Labs' UNIX.
 
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mattmns said:
*cough* search google for "ubuntu calendar" and you can find some of the wallpapers.
cough:or search the top-rated wallpapers at gnome-look.org:cough :wink:
 

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