What are the calculations for three blocks colliding and coming to rest?

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The problem involves two blocks sliding towards each other at an angle, and a third block that needs to be pushed towards them to bring all three blocks to rest upon collision. The context is centered around momentum conservation and vector calculations in a physics setting.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to momentum in both x and y directions for the two initial blocks and the third block. There are attempts to verify the correctness of these calculations and the direction and velocity needed for the third block.

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Some participants are retracing their steps to check for errors in their calculations, while others are exploring graphical representations to clarify the problem. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas and methods, with some participants expressing differing results and seeking consensus on the approach.

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Homework Statement



Two blocks (m1 = 0.02 kg, m2 = 0.03 kg, v1 = 1.5 m/s, v2 = 0.5 m/s) are sliding without friction on a surface. They are approaching each other at angle θ = 60º. In what direction and with how much velocity do we have to push the third block (m3 = 0.05 kg) against the first two blocks, so that when they crash they will come to rest?

2. Homework Equations


p=mv

3. The Attempt at a Solution


First two blocks:

G(x)= m(2)v(2)*(-sin θ)
G(y)= m(1)v(1) + m(2)*cos θ

Third block:


G(3x)= sin θ

G(3y)= m(1)v(1) – m(2)v(2)*cos θ

For the direction of the third block:

tan θ’= m(2)v(2)*sin θ / m(10v(1) + m(2)v(2)*cos θ → θ’= 19.1º

For the velocity of the third block:


G(3)= m(3)v(3) → v(3)= G3 / m(3)

G3= sqrt(m(1)²v(1)² + m(2)²v(2)² +2m(1)v(1)m(2)v(2)*cos θ)= 0.039686

v(3)= G3 / m(3)= 0.79372 m/s

Are my calculations correct?
 
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I'm getting different answers. Did you get
G(x)= m(2)v(2)*(-sin θ) = .013
G(y)= m(1)v(1) - m(2)*cos θ = .0225
 
I retraced my steps and found out that I messed up big.

Here is how, I think, it is supposed to be:

First two blocks:

G(x)= m(1)v(1) + m(2)v(2) cos θ= 0.0375
G(y)= m(2)v(2) (-sin θ)= 0.013

Third block:

G(3(x))= -G(x)= -(m(1)v(1) + m(2)v(2) cos θ)= -0.0375
G(3(y))= -G(y)= m(2)v(2) sin θ= -0.013

For the direction of the third block:

tan θ’= m(2)v(2)*sin θ / m(10v(1) + m(2)v(2)*cos θ → θ’= 19.1º

For the velocity of the third block:

G(3)= m(3)v(3) → v(3)= G3 / m(3)

G3= sqrt(m(1)²v(1)² + m(2)²v(2)² +2m(1)v(1)m(2)v(2)*cos θ)= 0.039686

v(3)= G3 / m(3)= 0.79372 m/s

Are now my calculations correct?
 
There are several ways to look at this question! We'll have to agree on a diagram before we can understand each other. Show yours or use mine:
threeblocks.jpg
 
This is how I approached the problem graphically.
 

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Here we go:

http://www.slide.com/s/QrlHnyTY6D_vkTXmDIP5GFj8tT_LIBU0?referrer=hlnk
 
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Ah, that makes sense and your calcs are correct!
 
Thank you for helping and have a nice day!:smile:
 

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