What are the differences between rotating and non-rotating black holes?

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The discussion centers on the differences between rotating and non-rotating black holes, exploring theoretical and conceptual aspects of their properties and behaviors. Participants examine the implications of rotation on black hole formation, energy extraction, and the nature of singularities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that rotating black holes can twist objects that approach them, indicating a difference in behavior compared to non-rotating black holes.
  • One participant explains that the majority of black holes are rotating due to the conservation of angular momentum from the stars that formed them, suggesting that non-rotating black holes are primarily theoretical constructs.
  • Another participant outlines several substantial differences, including the existence of an ergosphere around rotating black holes, which allows for energy extraction through the Penrose process.
  • It is mentioned that inside a rotating black hole, there exists a Cauchy horizon where closed timelike curves may allow for theoretical time travel, contrasting with the singularity of a non-rotating black hole where one must inevitably hit the singularity.
  • Concerns are raised about the breakdown of classical general relativity at the Cauchy horizon of rotating black holes, suggesting the need for a quantum mechanical theory of gravity to fully understand these regions.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the nature and implications of rotating versus non-rotating black holes, with no consensus reached on all aspects discussed. Some points are clarified while others remain contested.

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Limitations include the theoretical nature of non-rotating black holes and the unresolved implications of singularities and horizons in both types of black holes.

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Another black hole thread...

So what exactly is the difference between a rotating black hole and an non rotating BH? I am not exactly sure what the difference is so i decided to ask the enlightened ones.

Thanks all!
 
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If you go near to a rotating black hole, you will be twisted around too.
 


The majority of black holes are rotating. This is because black holes generally form from collapsed stars (post CNO cycle and entering the point where it begins to attempt to fuse iron). Since the star has been rotating all this while, due to conservation of angular momentum, the subsequent black hole that is created must also retain that original angular momentum or in other words be rotating at the same rate.

If I recall correctly, non-rotating BH's are merely theoretical BHs that are formed from non-rotating degenerate material. I'm not quite sure if the majority of pre-BH candidates are non-rotating but nevertheless, something that doesn't rotate before its black hole conversion will not rotate after.

I hope that sort of helps.
 


Mr. Paradox said:
So what exactly is the difference between a rotating black hole and an non rotating BH?

There are substantial differences between rotating and non-rotating black holes, including the following.

1) Outside the event horizon of a rotating black hole, there is a region called the ergosphere from which is possible to extract energy from the black hole. Consider a composite particle that consists parts A and B held together by string and that has a timer and some explosives. The particle is launched with energy E_1 far from the black hole. The the timer and explosives are arranged such that after the particle enters the ergosphere (but is still above the event horizon), particles A and B separate, and A escapes to a place far the black hole while B falls into the black hole. It is possible that far from the black hole particle A can have an energy E_2 > E_1, with the extra energy extract from the rotation of the black hole. This called the Penrose process.

2) Inside the black there there is another horizon that is a Cauchy horizon. Through any event inside the Cauchy Horizon, there exist closed timelike curves. Time travel is theoretically possible in this region! Also, there seems to be a non-crushing physical singularity at the Cauchy horizon. Non-crushing means that tidal forces won't necessarily destroy a person who falls through the Cauchy horizon.

3) Once inside a spherical, non-rotating black hole, a person must "hit" the singularity inside. The singularity of a classical, eternal black hole is through which it is possible theoretically to fall without hitting the ring.

It seems that classical general relativity breaks down at a rotating black hole's Cauchy horizon. This has been suspected/known for almost 40 years. It also seems that semi-classical relativity breaks down at the Cauchy horizon. It looks like this means that a fully quantum mechanical theory of gravity is necessary to predict what happens at and inside a rotating black hole's Cauchy horizon.
 

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