What are the essential parts needed for a robotics project?

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The discussion revolves around the essential parts needed for building a robotics project, with a focus on the design and components suitable for a relatively large robot. Participants explore various approaches, including the use of kits, modifying prebuilt cars, and considerations between electric and gas-powered systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to build a relatively large robot, suggesting features like four wheels and a webcam, while acknowledging a lack of prior knowledge.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "relatively large," suggesting that it could vary significantly in size and recommending hydraulics for strength in larger builds.
  • A suggestion is made to start with a robot kit from a store like Radio Shack to gain experience before attempting a custom build.
  • Participants discuss the feasibility of modifying a prebuilt car and weigh the pros and cons of using battery power versus gas power for the robot.
  • One participant argues that electric power is generally better due to ease of refueling, noise levels, and safety considerations for indoor use.
  • Links to resources and competitions are shared, including a suggestion to participate in a robotics competition for practical experience.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using hydraulic systems in smaller robots, with one participant suggesting that they are more suited for larger projects.
  • Another participant mentions the use of pneumatics as a more practical alternative to hydraulics for certain applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on the size and type of robot being discussed, with no consensus on the best approach or components. The discussion includes multiple competing views on power sources and the practicality of different systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the specific requirements of the project before purchasing parts, highlighting the potential costs involved in building a robot.

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So, I recently got the idea to build a robot, because a need a new project. I understand that it will become expensive, but i was wondering if I could get like a list of needed parts for this type of project.

Not sure that this is the best move, but I'm planning on making the robot relatively large, four wheels, a web cam on top, etc. I was thinking about maybe using an air plane controller with two joysticks rather than the normal controllers with a wheel and a trigger.

This seems like it'll get relatively complicated, considering I haven't learned anything useful for this in High School, so... deciding I don't want to waste a lot of money making mistakes.
 
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Welcome to PF, Petite (no damned way am I going to bother typing out your whole name).
To start with, the term 'relatively large' means nothing to us, since we don't know what it's relative to. To me, that would be something about the size of a car. I would definitely go with hydraulics for anything that I would build, since it would need some serious strength, using proportional solenoid valves. That would be multiple thousands of dollars down the tubes without even getting into control and feedback systems.
To someone else, 'relatively large' might be smaller than an average cat. That would entail only small electric servo actuators and batteries.
 
I would highly recommend going to a Radio Shack or comparable and look for robot kits. That is the best way to learn. Make something that someone else has worked the bugs out on and then, after you have some experience, go and build something from scratch.
 
Sorry, I was thinking about the size of like a shopping cart.

What about just modding a prebuilt car? And would a battery be better than a gas powered robot for this type of "robot"
 
That depends primarily upon what you want it to do. Generally speaking, electric is probably better. It's a lot easier to 'refuel', quieter, and you don't have to worry about gassing yourself to death if you use it indoors. Also, there's no need for a transmission/clutch assembly. Even in the hydraulic system that I mentioned earlier, I would use 12VDC electric pumps.
 
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Sorry, I was thinking about the size of like a shopping cart.

What about just modding a prebuilt car? And would a battery be better than a gas powered robot for this type of "robot"

http://www.societyofrobots.com/?gclid=CMuaruzojJICFSOCGgodIz1fEA

http://www.battlebots.com/bnc_rules.asp
Go to technical regulations, the first time i posted this the wrong link showed up, i didn't catch it till later. hope this one is right,

These two links might be a little help, and a search " battlebots" will give a lot of websites to study.
As Danger said hydraulics are good, and if you have a little skill and use of a lathe you can make some of your own small things.

http://www.4qd.co.uk/

4qd has a load of useful information, about controllers, and electrical power transmission.
Do a lot of research, and make sure you know and understand what you need a part to accomplish, before you spend your money.:smile:

Good luck, and have fun.
 
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Get your high school to compete it the http://usfirst.org/" robotic competetion. This is currently underway with the finals competions 17 - 19 Apr in Alanta Georgia.

It is a fun game to wacth, if you poke around on the first site you should be able to watch videos of some of the regional events.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd24/Integral50/DSC_0039.jpg" is a pic of the robot we built this year. Didn't do as well as we would have liked to. Looking forward to next year.
 
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Wow, Int... that's a big bunch of aluminum. Does it do anything?
Looks like a basketball free-throw device.
 
Can someone point me in the right direction? I've looked through the first couple pages for hydraulics in rc cars, and it seems most of the stuff that comes up is for the suspension?
 
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I doubt very much that you'll find anything about hydraulic actuators in any site about RC toys. They're totally impractical for anything on that scale. There's an outside chance that they might be appropriate for your 'shopping cart' sized device, but I wouldn't count on it. I mentioned them in the first place only because I didn't know what size you were talking about. Hydraulics are for my kind of toys; ie: size somewhere between a large car and a small hotel.
 
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http://www.ifirobotics.com/"is a link to the parts list for a First robot. You can buy all sorts of cool stuff in there. Unfortunately, they expect to be paid.

You will find pneumatics to more practical then hydraulics. We had 6 pneumatic cylinders on our robot. All driven by a small 12V DC compressor.

These things are not cheap to built, teams need at least $10K to compete.

http://usfirst.org/community/frc/default.aspx?id=966" show the game we build the robot to play.
 
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