What Are the Implications of a Woman Being Charged with Raping a Man in Norway

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The discussion centers around the implications of a woman being charged with raping a man in Norway, exploring the legal, social, and psychological aspects of the case. Participants engage in debates about definitions of consent, the nature of sexual assault, and societal perceptions of male victims.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the incident constitutes rape or sexual assault, suggesting that the man may not have been aware of the actions taken against him.
  • Others argue that the presence of unconsciousness or incapacitation should legally classify the act as rape, regardless of the circumstances.
  • There are claims that societal perceptions often dismiss male victimhood, with some asserting that men cannot be raped or that they may be perceived as complicit.
  • Participants discuss the physiological responses of the body during sexual assault, with some asserting that these responses do not imply consent.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the legal definitions and protections for male victims of sexual assault, citing a lack of precedent in legal cases.
  • Some contributions reflect on the psychological impact of such incidents on male victims, emphasizing feelings of humiliation and shame.
  • There are references to other cases and discussions in media that highlight the complexities surrounding male sexual assault and societal attitudes towards it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views remaining on the definitions of consent, the nature of the incident, and the societal implications for male victims of sexual assault.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding legal definitions and societal perceptions, indicating a need for clarity on the laws surrounding sexual assault in different jurisdictions.

  • #31
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Statatory rape: a female high school teacher and male student were in the new some years ago.

I would add that even while in a coma it is possible to have an erection. I think Tsunami will back me up on this.
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  • #32
Originally posted by phatmonky


There you go, there have been other cases, but many rape laws to not cover such a thing, and thus the women are charged with "sexual misconduct" and what not.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told that in some states an erection legally constitutes "consent". I hope that I was missinformed on this, because such a law is not only ignorant, but criminal.
 
  • #33
I remember some years ago that I’ve read an article about gay being raped in England London by two girls. Mechanism: They meet the guy in some night club drugged him took him into hotel apartment tied him gave him Viagra and the “party” started. Girls were in early twenties, and that wasn’t the first time they done it. Guy reported everything to newspapers but he didn’t sue them (btw he described them as beautiful:)).
 
  • #34
Originally posted by Zero
This is an interesting situation, and if some of you would take it seriously for a moment, you would maybe learn something or other. Saying that you can't rape a man is like saying that a woman is asking for it, as far as I'm concerned.

Good point. On TV in Norway this week they discussed if a man should accept or tolerate more than a woman with respect to this case. What do you think about that? I think NO because the man's privates are not just something anyone can touch and all men are as sexually sensitive as women when it comes to such cases. Of course this victims cares, of course he was disgusted and the shame will come to him just as it comes to anyone else. A psychologist mentioned in this TV programme that men dream of being seduced by women - maybe even raped - but that is a DREAM!

And to whoever said that women have orgasm and all that while being raped - don't count me in it allright? I WOULD NOT! and you have a zero of knwoledge to say that whether you have heard it or read it.
 
  • #35
Originally posted by eagleone
I remember some years ago that I’ve read an article about gay being raped in England London by two girls. Mechanism: They meet the guy in some night club drugged him took him into hotel apartment tied him gave him Viagra and the “party” started. Girls were in early twenties, and that wasn’t the first time they done it. Guy reported everything to newspapers but he didn’t sue them (btw he described them as beautiful:)).

That could indicate that it was not REALLY a rape. But whatever. To hell with him.
 
  • #36
But he didnt consent to having sex with them, and was not able to make decisions due to his drugged state. They had to use viagra to get him in a suitable condition. Rape is sex without consent of both parties, the drugged guy didnt give consent therefore it is rape. Whether he found them attractive or not or decided not to sue doesn't stop it being a rape case. Remember many women are raped and don't tell anyone or press charges. As a male rape it is not taken seriously as a case by the courts and so his decision not to take it further may have been to do with the fact that it would not get anywhere.
 
  • #37
Originally posted by jimmy p
But he didnt consent to having sex with them, and was not able to make decisions due to his drugged state. They had to use viagra to get him in a suitable condition. Rape is sex without consent of both parties, the drugged guy didnt give consent therefore it is rape. Whether he found them attractive or not or decided not to sue doesn't stop it being a rape case. Remember many women are raped and don't tell anyone or press charges. As a male rape it is not taken seriously as a case by the courts and so his decision not to take it further may have been to do with the fact that it would not get anywhere.

I clearly see your point. That what those two girls di to him was disgusting. Wholly and solely disgusting. Rather they should go to hell. Hope they do.
 
  • #38
Is that sarcasm? lol i can't tell when its text
 
  • #39
Originally posted by jimmy p
Is that sarcasm? lol i can't tell when its text

No that was not sarcasm. It was very sincere and honest. Don't worry. And it is a good proof that body language is important in communication.:smile:
 
  • #40
Hey, yeah! soz for being a little suspicious! Dont 'they' say that talking is only about 4% of communication that we receive?
 
  • #41
Originally posted by jimmy p
Hey, yeah! soz for being a little suspicious! Dont 'they' say that talking is only about 4% of communication that we receive?

'They' say so yes. Whoever 'they' are.. The educated people with credible statistics and factual knowledge I guess. :smile:
 

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