What are the implications of the possible P and CP breaking at RHIC?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of potential parity (P) and charge-parity (CP) breaking observed at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC). Participants explore the relationship between a recent press release and various research papers, questioning the significance and clarity of the findings related to these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion regarding the connection between a press release and a specific research paper, noting that the paper does not mention P or CP breaking.
  • One participant highlights a statement from the press release suggesting a preference for the direction of charged quarks in relation to the magnetic field, linking it to the "charge balance function" mentioned in the paper.
  • Another participant proposes a different paper as potentially relevant, indicating uncertainty about the latest results and their implications.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of detecting parity violation in strong interactions, particularly regarding the complexity of the detection system and the level of systematic uncertainties involved.
  • Some participants speculate that the recent flurry of news releases may be tied to an upcoming major review of RHIC, suggesting that controversial results are often highlighted to showcase the lab's ongoing research efforts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the significance of the findings or the relationship between the press release and the research papers. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the implications of the observed phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding the relationship between the press release and the cited papers, as well as the potential for systematic uncertainties in the detection of parity violation. The discussion reflects varying levels of expertise among participants, particularly in relation to the specific field of relativistic heavy ion physics.

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This press release makes it sound like a big deal: http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/news2/news.asp?a=1073&t=pr

On the other hand, this seems to be the paper,
http://arxiv.org/abs/1002.1641
and it never even seems to mention P or CP breaking.

Anyone know any more about this? I'm not even sure if the arxiv paper above is the one that correlates with the press release. The charge asymmetry does sounds like what was described in the press release, and the date seems to match up.
 
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bcrowell said:
This press release makes it sound like a big deal: http://www.bnl.gov/rhic/news2/news.asp?a=1073&t=pr

On the other hand, this seems to be the paper,
http://arxiv.org/abs/1002.1641
and it never even seems to mention P or CP breaking.

I don't see the link between the paper and the article. How did you end up looking for this publication?
 
jmlynarz said:
I don't see the link between the paper and the article. How did you end up looking for this publication?

They may not be related. The press release has this: "The observations suggest that positively charged quarks may prefer to emerge parallel to the magnetic field in a given collision event, while negatively charged quarks prefer to emerge in the opposite direction." That seemed to me to sound like the "charge balance function" referred to in the arxiv paper. The other link is that the dates match up closely. But I could be completely wrong. My field is low-energy nuclear structure, not relativistic heavy ion physics.
 
It took me a while, but I'm pretty sure it's referring to http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.1739" . I really don't think there are any newer results, though. I'm not sure why the flurry of news releases just came.

It's pretty cool, though, that they could (possibly) be able to detect a parity violation in the strong interactions.
 
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Because RHIC will quite soon undergo a major review ?
 
humanino said:
Because RHIC will quite soon undergo a major review ?

What do you mean?
 
the_house said:
What do you mean?
These results are not new, and rather controversial. My above comment is an answer to :
I'm not sure why the flurry of news releases just came.
Indeed, controversial results are ideal to claim that the lab is doing "important work". I am not really criticizing, everybody does the same.
 
the_house said:
It took me a while, but I'm pretty sure it's referring to http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.1739" .
Ah, thanks!

the_house said:
It's pretty cool, though, that they could (possibly) be able to detect a parity violation in the strong interactions.
I was really impressed until I saw the \times 10^{-3} lurking up at the top of each y-axis in figs 2 and 3. They've got a detection system that's very big and complicated. It would take a lot of convincing to make me believe that they understand all their systematic levels at the 10^{-3} level.
 
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