What are the implications of this experiment?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a recent experiment observing single photons in a double-slit interferometer, particularly focusing on the nature of wave-particle duality and the interpretations of quantum mechanics, including the many-worlds interpretation and Bohmian mechanics. Participants explore the significance of weak measurements and the experimental results in relation to established quantum theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that the experiment allows for the observation of both particle and wave nature of photons simultaneously, questioning the implications for the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.
  • Others argue that the results do not fundamentally change the understanding of quantum mechanics and remain consistent with standard interpretations, emphasizing that weak measurements do not provide definitive trajectories for individual photons.
  • A later reply suggests that the experiment primarily contributes to the understanding of weak measurements rather than offering revolutionary insights into the nature of photons or the double-slit experiment.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the claims of mapping individual photon trajectories, noting that the results reflect average behaviors rather than specific paths taken by individual photons.
  • There is mention of the relevance of Bohmian trajectories in the context of the experiment, with some arguing that these trajectories should not be considered hidden variables, while others maintain that interpretations of what these trajectories represent differ among quantum mechanics frameworks.
  • One participant speculates that the findings could lead to a more primitive theory of continuous fields, suggesting a potential shift in understanding quantum mechanics, though this remains a personal opinion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the implications of the experiment. While some see it as a significant advancement, others contend that it does not alter the foundational principles of quantum mechanics. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the interpretation of the results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the experiment's conclusions, particularly regarding the nature of weak measurements and the inability to definitively determine the trajectory of individual photons. The discussion reflects ongoing debates about the interpretations of quantum mechanics and the implications of experimental findings.

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unusualname said:
I mean that all QM models would predict the trajectories if the correct calculations are carried out (maybe the Bohm calculation is more efficient, but doesn't mean zilch regarding Nature)
and so BM adherents need something much more convincing, like a (anti) Bell type argument to show determinism is possible. ie construct an experiment where pre-existing properties can be proved to have existed.
If you are pointing out that these weakly measured trajectories do not prove that Bohmian interpretation is correct, then I agree.

unusualname said:
And of course you have the HUGE problem of explaining the Standard Model from BM, which will be difficult since BM doesn't even have concept of quantum spin degree of freedom.
There is no such problem for BM. First, BM contains wave functions which DO have spin degrees of freedom. Second, when spin is measured, e.g., by Stern-Gerlach apparatus, then what is really measured is not spin as such, but a position of a particle.

For more details see also
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/1205.1992 (a chapter in a published book)
 

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