What are the Intercepts of the Sine Wave $y=\sin{2(x-\frac{\pi}{4})}$?

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The discussion revolves around finding the x-intercepts of the sine wave represented by the equation \(y=\sin{2(x-\frac{\pi}{4})}\). Participants explore various methods and reasoning to determine the intercepts, including generalizations and specific values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with \(y=0\) and solving \(2x-\frac{\pi}{2}=0\) to find intercepts, noting this is just one of potentially infinite solutions.
  • Another participant proposes that \(0=2(x-(\frac{\pi}{4}))\) implies \(x = \frac{\pi}{4}\) and questions if this leads to a general formula for intercepts.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that \(\sin(z)=0\) when \(z=n\pi\) for any integer \(n\), leading to the equation \(2(x-\frac{\pi}{4})=n\pi\) for solving \(x\).
  • One participant mentions using Ackbach's method, reiterating that \(\sin(x)=0\) at \(x=n\pi\) and deriving a general solution for \(x\) based on that periodicity.
  • A later reply corrects a previous mistake regarding the formulation of the equation for intercepts, clarifying the relationship between \(2(x-\frac{\pi}{4})\) and \(n\pi\).

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Participants express differing views on the correct approach to finding the intercepts, with no consensus reached on a singular method or solution. Multiple competing views remain regarding the generalization of the intercepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of considering the periodic nature of the sine function and the implications for finding multiple intercepts. There is also mention of typical constraints in such problems, such as limiting solutions to a specific interval like \(0\) to \(2\pi\).

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$y=\sin{2(x-\frac{\pi}{4})}$

how do you find the x intercepts of this

thot if 0=sin(2x-(pi/2)) then 0=2x-(pi/2) since sin(0)=0 but doen't look it

still don't know how to convert this to latex

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You're on the right track. Start with y=0 and then like you said use the fact that sin(0)=0. So solve [math]2x-\frac{\pi}{2}=0[/math]. That is only one of possibly infinite intercepts though. For what values of theta, does [math]\sin(\theta)=0[/math]? Not just at 0. How can you generalize these?
 
well i did this 0=2(x-(pi/4)) so from this looks like if x = (pi/4) then the intercepts this plus K(pi/4)+pi ?
 
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Not quite sure I would agree with the solutions so far. $\sin(z)=0$ when $z=n\pi$, for any integer $n$. So, set $2(x-\pi/4)=n\pi$ and solve for $x$. What do you get?
 
I would use Ackbach's method to solve this. We know that $\sin(x) = 0$ when $x = n\pi$ where n is an integer (you can check this by graphing the result and using the periodicity of sin(x) to extend it)
Thus $2\left(x- \frac{\pi}{4}\right) = n\pi \Leftrightarrow x - \frac{\pi}{4} = \frac{n\pi}{2}$

Add $\frac{\pi}{4}$ to both sides to get the general set of solutions.

Typically these questions ask for solutions between $0$ and $2\pi$. If this is the case then $n=0,1,2$

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To render latex, use a single dollar sign at each end of your latex (or a double dollar sign to centre it, again at each end). http://www.mathhelpboards.com/showthread.php?27-How-to-use-LaTeX-on-this-site has more information including how to decode someone else's (although I go with the quote the post and look for myself method :cool:)

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$2\left(x- \frac{\pi}{4}\right) = n\pi \Leftrightarrow x - \frac{\pi}{4} = \frac{n\pi}{2}$
becomes $2\left(x- \frac{\pi}{4}\right) = n\pi \Leftrightarrow x - \frac{\pi}{4} = \frac{n\pi}{2}$
 
Doh! Sorry guys and thanks for catching my mistake. Clearly it's not [math]2 \left(x-\frac{\pi}{4} \right) + n\pi[/math] but when [math]2 \left(x-\frac{\pi}{4} \right) = n\pi[/math]
 
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