What are the level surfaces of the function f(x,y,z) = z + sqrt(x^2 + y^2)?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the level surfaces of the function f(x,y,z) = z + sqrt(x^2 + y^2). Participants are exploring the concept of level surfaces and their geometric interpretations in three-dimensional space.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to define level surfaces by setting f(x,y,z) equal to a constant and exploring the resulting equations. Questions arise regarding the nature of these surfaces, with some participants suggesting they resemble ellipsoids while others question the validity of this interpretation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on manipulating the equation to isolate terms, while others are questioning the geometric implications of the derived forms. There is no explicit consensus on the final characterization of the surfaces.

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Participants are navigating through definitions and mathematical manipulations, with some expressing uncertainty about the relationships between the variables involved. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations that have yet to be resolved.

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Homework Statement



Describe the level surfaces of f(x,y,z) = z + sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



First of all, what is actually a level surface? Just a normal surface in space?

I followed an example I found on the internet, and this is my attempt at a solution:

First replace f(x,y,z) with a constant

k = z + sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

Then square (k is now another constant)

k = z^2 + x^2 + y^2

This is an ellipsoid, so the level surfaces are ellipsoids centered at the origin.

Is this the right solution? If so, is it possible to say more about the ellipsoids?
 
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The definition of a level surface of function of f(x,y,z) is the solutions to f(x,y,z)=k for a constant k.

Now, please don't tell me that you think (a+b)^2=a^2+b^2, as you wrote above...
 
OK, so

k = z^2 + 2sqrt(x^2+y^2) + x^2 +y^2

then.

Is this one easy to recognize as a 3D-figure?
 
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kasse said:
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k = z + sqrt(x^2 + y^2)

Get the radical all by itself on one side of the equation before you square. It will be MUCH easier to recognize.
 
Dick said:
Get the radical all by itself on one side of the equation before you square. It will be MUCH easier to recognize.

Then i get x^2 + y^2 - z^2 = k^2 - 2kz

Still doesn't resemble anything I'm familiar with.
 
Leave it as x^2+y^2=(k-z)^2. x^2+y^2 is often called r^2, right? So write this as r=|z-k|. Can you describe it now?
 
A sphere, isn't is?
 
kasse said:
A sphere, isn't is?

Nope. Look, r is the radius in the xy plane, right? If r=0 then z=k. What is z for r=1? Note k-z must be positive. Why?
 

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