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The discussion focuses on finding the minimum and maximum values of the expression P = (y - x) / (x + 8y) under the constraint defined by the equation y^2(6 - x^2) - xy - 1 = 0. Participants are encouraged to share their methods for solving the problem, indicating a collaborative approach to problem-solving. A hint is provided affirming the correctness of previous answers, suggesting that the solutions may already be established. The conversation emphasizes the importance of different solving techniques and encourages sharing insights. Overall, the thread highlights a mathematical exploration of optimization within a specific equation.
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Find the minimum and maximum of $P=\dfrac{y−x}{x+8y}$ for all real $x$ and $y$ that satisfy the equation $y^2(6-x^2)-xy-1=0$.
 
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Hint:

If you're fond of using the AM-GM inequality method (when applicable) to solve for optimization problem, then you could try to express $P$ in terms of $xy$.
 
anemone said:
Hint:

If you're fond of using the AM-GM inequality method (when applicable) to solve for optimization problem, then you could try to express $P$ in terms of $xy$.
$max(P)=\dfrac {7}{2},\,\, xy=-1$
$min(P)=\dfrac {-1}{10},\, xy=1$
 
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Yes, those are the correct answers, Albert. If your method of solving is different than mine, I hope you could post it to share it with me and MHB. Thanks. :)

Here is my solution:
$\begin{align*}P&=\dfrac{y−x}{x+8y}\\&=\dfrac{y(y−x)}{y(x+8y)}\\&=\dfrac{y^2−xy}{xy+8y^2}\\&=\dfrac{\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1}{6}−xy}{xy+8\left(\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1}{6}\right)}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2+xy+1-6xy}{6xy+8x^2y^2+8xy+8}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2-5xy+1}{8x^2y^2+14xy+8}\\&=\dfrac{x^2y^2-5xy+1}{8(x^2y^2+\dfrac{14xy}{8}+1)}\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27xy}{4(x^2y^2+\dfrac{14xy}{8}+1)}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+xy+\dfrac{1}{xy})}\right)\end{align*}$

If $xy\gt 0$, we get $P_{\text{minimum}}=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+2)}\right)=-\dfrac{1}{10}$.

If $xy\lt 0$, then we need to rewrite $P$ such that it takes the form:

$\begin{align*}P&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}+xy+\dfrac{1}{xy})}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1-\dfrac{27}{4(\dfrac{14}{8}-|xy|-\dfrac{1}{|xy|})}\right)\\&=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1+\dfrac{27}{4\left(|xy|+\dfrac{1}{|xy|}-\dfrac{14}{8}\right)}\right)\end{align*}$

Thus $P_{\text{maximum}}=\dfrac{1}{8}\left(1+\dfrac{27}{4\left(2-\dfrac{14}{8}\right)}\right)=\dfrac{7}{2}$.
 
Albert said:
$max(P)=\dfrac {7}{2},\,\, xy=-1$
$min(P)=\dfrac {-1}{10},\, xy=1$
my solution:
let $k=xy$
$p=\dfrac {k^2-5k+1}{8k^2+14k+8}$ (up to now the solution is similar to anemone's method)
if $k>0 $ then :
$P\geq \dfrac{2k-5k}{8k^2+14k+8}=\dfrac {-3k}{8k^2+14k+8}=\dfrac {-1}{10}$ equality holds when $k=xy=1$
if $k<0 $ then :
$P\leq \dfrac{k^2-5k+1}{14k-16k}=\dfrac {k^2-5k+1}{-2k}=\dfrac {7}{2}$ equality holds when $k=xy=-1$
 

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