What are the positive values for a in the equation a^x=x+2?

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The discussion revolves around finding positive values for "a" in the equation \(a^x = x + 2\). Participants explore various methods for determining the conditions under which this equation has two real solutions, including graphical analysis and calculus-based approaches. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical exploration.

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  • One participant suggests that the equation \(a^x = x + 2\) has two real solutions and seeks to find the range of positive values for "a".
  • Another participant introduces the function \(f(x) = a^x - x - 2\) and discusses its derivatives, indicating that upward concavity is required for \(f(x)\) to have two roots.
  • A correction is made regarding the definition of \(a^x\) for negative values of "a", emphasizing that \(0 < a < 1\) should be considered instead.
  • Graphical representations are provided to illustrate how the function \(y = a^x\) behaves for different ranges of "a", noting that for \(a > 1\), the graph will always intersect the line \(y = x + 2\) at two points.
  • It is noted that for \(a = 1\), there is only one intersection point, and for \(0 < a < 1\), there is also only one intersection point due to the opposing slopes of the graphs.
  • One participant discusses the use of the Lambert W function to express the solutions, indicating that this approach introduces complexity without resolving the original question.

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Participants express differing views on the conditions under which the equation has two solutions, with some arguing for specific ranges of "a" while others provide corrections and alternative interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact positive values for "a" that yield two solutions.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made about the behavior of \(a^x\) for different ranges of "a", particularly concerning the definition and applicability of the function for negative values. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps in the exploration of the Lambert W function.

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Sorry for posting again but I need to prepare for exam.
a^x=x+2 has two real solutions.I need to find positive values for "a".
A) (1, infinity)
B) (0,1)
C) (1/e , e)
D) (1/(e^e), e^e)
E) (e^(1/e), infinity)
I tried to solve and I did it but I don't understand some things.
I let a picture below to see.
First, I need to know if there's other way to solve this kind of exercise.I would be happy if I would get some ideas.
Also, from my solution, I don't understand why from that table results just one solution and from the graphic results two solutions.Usually, to see the number of solutions I use this kind of table.
For a>1 f decrease from infinity to -1, then increase from -1 to infinity.I'm really confused.Need some indications here.
Thank you!
 

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I would begin with:

$$f(x)=a^x-x-2$$

Hence, let's examine:

$$f'(x)=a^x\ln(a)-1$$

$$f''(x)=a^x\ln^2(a)$$

Now, in order for \(f(x)\) to have 2 roots, we require upward concavity, that is we require:

$$f''(x)<0$$

Can you finish?
 
Hi Vali,

You have a mistake for $a<1$ where you took the example $a=-e$.
Admittedly $-e < 1$, but $a^x$ is not defined for negative $a$.
So we should pick $0<a<1$. We can pick for instance $a=\frac 1e$ so that we get $a^x=(\frac 1e)^x = e^{-x}$.

To understand better what's going on, let's draw a couple of graphs.

\begin{tikzpicture}[scale=0.6]
\begin{scope}
\draw[help lines] (-4,-2) grid (4,5);
\draw[<->] (-4.4,0) -- (4.4,0) node
{$x$};
\draw[<->] (0,-2.2) -- (0,5.2) node[above] {$y$};
\draw foreach \i in {-4,-3,-2,-1,1,2,3,4} { (\i,0.1) -- (\i,-0.1) node[below] {$\i$} };
\draw foreach \i in {-2,-1,1,2,3,4,5} { (0.1,\i) -- (-0.1,\i) node
{$\i$} };
\draw[domain=-4:2.2, variable=\x, red, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {(\x+2)}) node
{$y=x+2$};
\draw[domain=-4:1.6, variable=\x, blue, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {exp(\x)}) node
{$y=a^x, a>1$};
\end{scope}
\begin{scope}[xshift=10cm]
\draw[help lines] (-4,-2) grid (4,5);
\draw[<->] (-4.4,0) -- (4.4,0) node
{$x$};
\draw[<->] (0,-2.2) -- (0,5.2) node[above] {$y$};
\draw foreach \i in {-4,-3,-2,-1,1,2,3,4} { (\i,0.1) -- (\i,-0.1) node[below] {$\i$} };
\draw foreach \i in {-2,-1,1,2,3,4,5} { (0.1,\i) -- (-0.1,\i) node
{$\i$} };
\draw[domain=-4:2.2, variable=\x, red, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {(\x+2)}) node[above] {$y=x+2$};
\draw[domain=-4:3, variable=\x, blue, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {1}) node[above] {$y=a^x, a=1$};
\end{scope}
\begin{scope}[xshift=20cm]
\draw[help lines] (-4,-2) grid (4,5);
\draw[<->] (-4.4,0) -- (4.4,0) node
{$x$};
\draw[<->] (0,-2.2) -- (0,5.2) node[above] {$y$};
\draw foreach \i in {-4,-3,-2,-1,1,2,3,4} { (\i,0.1) -- (\i,-0.1) node[below] {$\i$} };
\draw foreach \i in {-2,-1,1,2,3,4,5} { (0.1,\i) -- (-0.1,\i) node
{$\i$} };
\draw[domain=-4:2.2, variable=\x, red, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {(\x+2)}) node
{$y=x+2$};
\draw[domain=-1.6:3, variable=\x, blue, ultra thick] plot ({\x}, {exp(-\x)}) node[above right] {$y=a^x, 0<a<1$};
\end{scope}
\end{tikzpicture}

Note that the line $y=x+2$ intersects the y-axis at $2$, which is always above the $1$ where $y=a^x$ intersects the y-axis.
The cases are:
  • For $a>1$, the graph of $y=a^x$ always slopes upwards exponentially so that it will always overtake the line.
    In other words, we always have 2 intersection points.
  • For $a=1$ we have indeed always 1 intersection point as we have 2 intersecting lines.
  • For $0<a<1$ we also have always 1 intersection point since the graphs have opposite slopes.
    As you can see, this is different from what you had, as $a$ must be positive for a proper definition of $a^x$.
  • For $a=0$ (not drawn) $a^x$ is only defined for positive $x$ where it is $0$, so no intersection points.
    We can't divide by $0$ after all.
  • For $a<0$ the expression $a^x$ is undefined for real $x$. We can't take roots (at e.g. $x=\frac 12$) of negative numbers after all.
I hope this clarifies a bit and gives you a different way to look at the problem! ;)​
 
Thank you for your help!I understood.

I try to understand the method with second derivative.
f''(x) < 0 has no solution for x real.
 
By the way, letting y= x+ 2, the equation becomes

[math]a^{y-2}= a^{-2}a^y= a^{-2}e^{ln(a^y)}= a^{-2}e^{yln(a)}= y[/math].

Letting z= y ln(a), a^{-2}e^{z}= \frac{z}{ln(a)}. ze^{-z}= a^{-2}ln(a). Finally, letting u= -z, ue^u= -a^{-2}ln(a). Then u= W(-a^{-2}ln(a)) where W is "Lambert's W function", the inverse to f(x)= xe^x.

Then z= -W(-a^{-2}ln(a)), y= -\frac{W(-a^{-2}ln(a))}{ln(a)}, x= -\frac{W(-a^{-2}ln(a))}{ln(a)}- 2.

Of course, since the W function can be multivalued, that does not answer the original question!
 

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