What are the products of combining potassium hydroxide and dodecanedioic acid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the products formed when potassium hydroxide is combined with dodecanedioic acid. Participants explore the potential chemical products, their identities, and the relevance of CAS numbers for these compounds.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the products of mixing potassium hydroxide and dodecanedioic acid, expressing difficulty in finding relevant information.
  • Another participant suggests that the product would be a dodecanedioate.
  • It is noted that dodecanedioic acid is a dicarboxylic acid, which could lead to the formation of either a potassium salt or a dipotassium salt.
  • A participant raises the issue of needing CAS numbers for these species to use them for their purposes.
  • There is a challenge regarding the validity of compounds without CAS numbers, with some participants expressing skepticism about their existence.
  • Some participants propose that the reaction could yield a soap, specifically potassium dodecanoate.
  • One participant mentions that potassium dodecanoate has a known CAS number (10124-65-9), suggesting it is easier to find than the other proposed products.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of CAS numbers, with some emphasizing their importance while others question the necessity of such identifiers. The discussion includes multiple competing views on the products of the reaction, and no consensus is reached regarding the definitive outcomes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the identification of products, particularly concerning the availability of CAS numbers and the definitions of the compounds discussed. The discussion does not resolve the uncertainty surrounding the exact nature of the products formed.

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Hi,

I have a solution that contains potassium hydroxide and dodecanedioic acid. I am trying to figure out what my products will be but I can't seem to find anything real that dodecanedioic acid would become.

Any insights?
 
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A dodecanedioate.
 
This is just a dicarboxylic acid.
 
Which would mean it would be either dodecanedioic acid, potassium salt or dodecanedioic acid, dipotassium salt. I cannot find CAS numbers for either of these species. In order to use either of those for my purpose I need to have a CAS number.
 
So it's not real if it doesn't have a CAS number, now?
 
alxm said:
So it's not real if it doesn't have a CAS number, now?

Exactly my thoughts, I just spared r&d that comment :smile:
 
...would be a soap.
 
potassium dodecanoate, a soap.
 
Dodecanodioate, potassium dodecanoate has a relatively easy to find CAS number (10124-65-9).
 

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