What Are the Products of Zinc Sulphate and Barium Nitrate Reaction?

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The discussion revolves around the reaction between zinc sulfate and barium nitrate, specifically focusing on identifying the products of this reaction and the conditions under which it occurs. Participants explore concepts related to solubility, exchange reactions, and the behavior of ionic compounds in solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in determining the products of the reaction between zinc sulfate and barium nitrate, despite being able to write the formulas for the reactants.
  • Another participant suggests that mixing the reactants results in a mixture of ions and proposes a model for an exchange reaction.
  • A participant questions the validity of the proposed products, indicating that zinc chloride was incorrectly mentioned instead of zinc sulfate.
  • Concerns are raised about the role of solubility in determining whether a reaction occurs, with one participant noting that barium sulfate is insoluble.
  • There is confusion regarding the necessity of mixing the salts in solution for a reaction to take place, with some participants suggesting that a liquid must be involved.
  • Participants discuss general solubility rules, noting that while most nitrates and sulfates are soluble, exceptions exist, particularly for barium sulfate.
  • One participant highlights that the fourth solubility rule indicates which salts will precipitate from the solution, leading to further questions about the products of the reaction.
  • There is a discussion about the dissociation of salts in water and the potential for recombination to form different salts, with emphasis on the solubility of the resulting compounds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a reaction occurs between the reactants in solid form versus in solution. There is no consensus on the products of the reaction, as some participants believe that barium sulfate would precipitate while others question the conditions under which this would happen.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference solubility rules that may not be universally agreed upon, leading to uncertainty about which salts are soluble or insoluble in the context of this reaction. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the conditions under which ionic compounds react.

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Homework Statement



Write and Balance equations for the following reactions:

zinc sulphate + barium nitrate ----->

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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the formulas for the reactants are :

ZnSO4 + Ba(NO3)2 ---->

I'm just having a really hard time coming up with the product for these type of questions. I have no problems writing the formulas for the individual compounds, and balancing afterwards is good to go as well. It's the products I'm having trouble with. Can anybody give me a shove in the right direction? Thanks.
 
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I end up with a mixture of ions initially after mixing them. But there appears to be a compound that is insoluble...
 
Fightfish said:
I end up with a mixture of ions initially after mixing them. But there appears to be a compound that is insoluble...

So could I use the model for an exchange reaction,

AB + CD ----> AD + CB

ZnSO4 + Ba(NO3)2 ----> Zn(NO3) + BaSO4

Does that work?
 
jools111 said:
Does that work?

In general - no. ZnCl2 + Ba(NO3)2 is no reaction. However, do you know solubility rules? If so, do you see potentially insoluble salt? (That's what Fightfish already signalled).
 
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I'm not 100% on solubility rules yet... but I'm getting there. I do see that barium sulfate is insoluble. But there are no liquids in this reaction... so how does solubility come into play? Also, you have zinc chloride as the first reactant. Shouldn't it be zinc sulfate? Or have I missed something again...
 
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The only way any reaction may happen is if you mix these salts in solution - when you mix solids, nothing happens. And zinc chloride/barium nitrate was just an example of very similar mixture which doesn't react - it just sits in the solution for ever.
 
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So the question states:

Write and balance an equation for the following reaction

zinc sulphate + barium nitrate

With both these compunds beings solids... I understand how there would be no reaction. Am I to assume that a liquid is added, and part of the reaction? I am really confused with this question.
 
Approach it as if you were mixing solutions. So not

ZnSO4 + Ba(NO3)2

but

ZnSO4(aq) + Ba(NO3)2(aq)
 
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Ok... So based on the general solubility rules, most nitrates and sufates are soluble. Which makes both of our compunds soluble... Can I not apply the exchange rule:

AB + CD ---> AD + CB

To give me:

ZnSO4 + Ba(NO3)2 ---> Zn(NO3)2 + BaSO4

Even in an aqueous state, the rule should apply right?
 
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jools111 said:
most nitrates and sufates are soluble

Most, but not all.
 
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The rule states:

2. Most nitrates and acetates are soluble. AgC2H3O2 is moderately soluble.
4. Most sulfates are soluble except BaSO4, SrSO4, and PbSO4. CaSO4 and Hg2SO4 are moderately soluble.

If it is not part of the rule, how can I tell what is soluble and what is not?
 
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Fourth rule specifically points to what salt will precipitate from the solution.
 
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I'm sorry... I'm not following. In my book the fourth rule states:

4. Most sulfates are soluble except BaSO4, SrSO4, and PbSO4. CaSO4 and Hg2SO4 are moderately soluble.

Would the precipitate not be one of the products? Neither of the reactants in my equation are listed there...
 
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Seems like you are missing something... Do you know that salts are dissociated in water? Your solution contains Ba2+, Zn2+, SO42- and NO3-. They can recombine producing 4 possible salts. Of these most are soluble, so they won't precipitate.
 
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I am a bit confused too... As you have said, the solution contains 4 possible ions that recombine to form 4 possible salts. Since barium sulphate can be formed, why doesn't it precipitate from the reaction?
 

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