What are the results of my psychological testing?

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The discussion centers around an individual's recent psychological testing due to significant difficulties in school and work, resulting in below-average performance across various cognitive areas, particularly in memory, verbal learning, and written language. The psychologist's assessment indicated clinically significant impairments, prompting recommendations for therapy. Participants express skepticism about the testing's utility, suggesting that the results may not fully capture the individual's capabilities or the complexities of their situation. There is a consensus that while identifying issues is crucial, addressing them may require more than just understanding test scores. The conversation emphasizes the importance of developing coping strategies and recognizing the need for support in overcoming these challenges.
  • #31
phion said:
Try different medication? Zoloft and Neurontin do it for me!

Do what for you?
 
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  • #32
Drakkith said:
Do what for you?
They stabilize my mood; tendency to become agitated, angry, anxious, and depressed to the point of severe interference with everyday functionality.
 
  • #33
phion said:
They stabilize my mood; tendency to become agitated, angry, anxious, and depressed to the point of severe interference with everyday functionality.

Ah, I see. Unfortunately it's very unlikely that medications will fix me.
 
  • #34
Drakkith said:
Actually I suffer from terrible fatigue, lack of energy, and I'm taking an anti-depressant for depression.
I have the same diagnosis. The fact you're depressed completely explains your performance on this test, and probably all your difficulties at work.

Personally, I have taken to joking about how slowly I think and process information compared to others. This doesn't show up on the internet. No one knows if a paragraph took you two minutes or two hours to compose, so you present as alert and energetic whereas in reality it's sometimes like you're stuck in slow motion. You feel heavy, slow, tired: very common in depression.

I was pretty baffled by your problem till you mentioned this diagnosis. Knowing it, I think it explains everything and is what you want to apply your efforts to.
 
  • #35
zoobyshoe said:
I have the same diagnosis. The fact you're depressed completely explains your performance on this test, and probably all your difficulties at work.

I'm not sure I agree, as I've had these issues pretty much my whole life.

Personally, I have taken to joking about how slowly I think and process information compared to others. This doesn't show up on the internet. No one knows if a paragraph took you two minutes or two hours to compose, so you present as alert and energetic whereas in reality it's sometimes like you're stuck in slow motion. You feel heavy, slow, tired: very common in depression.

I don't feel heavy or slow, but I do have "mental fog", which is far worse if I don't take my medication for ADHD for a few days.

I was pretty baffled by your problem till you mentioned this diagnosis. Knowing it, I think it explains everything and is what you want to apply your efforts to.

While I'm sure it adds to the problems, I don't believe that depression is the cause of my symptoms. Personally I think it's the reverse, that the symptoms cause the depression.
 
  • #36
Drakkith said:
While I'm sure it adds to the problems, I don't believe that depression is the cause of my symptoms. Personally I think it's the reverse, that the symptoms cause the depression.
So, you must have had physical workups. They say they're finding nothing wrong with your bloodwork and all that? The aren't finding any physical cause?
 
  • #37
Some of the symptoms Drak listed remind me of a dyslexia (I am not saying it IS dyslexia, I just see some similarities). This can be related to the way he is wired, which IS a physical cause, but not one that will be found by typical examination. AFAIK the only known method at the moment is some kind of MRI scan that can be used to detect atypical brain activity during some visual/auditory tasks, but as of today it is not an approved diagnostic method, rather a research tool.
 
  • #38
Hi Drakkith

Firstly, I would also like to say, that your contributions to PF are extremely valuable, and I gather from the posts here that you have plenty of respect from other prominent PF members.

Having dealt with a case of mental illness recently myself (not mine, my wife's), I feel I can offer some advice.

1. Consult a psychiatrist (i.e. a doctor - psychologists are usually not doctors). Do what they say. This can (and will probably) include meds.

2. The meds will not fix you completely - but you will hopefully see a massive improvement, which may allow you to tackle whatever other issues you may have.

3. These problems are usually physiological - meaning they have a biological (i.e. chemical) cause. In other words, it's no different to having (say) diabetes or asthma, so you ought not to feel a stigma because of your condition.

4. Draw on other forms of support if you can - for example, other people that suffer from your condition - friends, family...my wife used to hide her condition under great duress, but once she "came out" the outpouring of support was overwhelming...the stigmas surrounding mental illness are less prevalent today than they were 20 years ago.

5. While they mean well, pay no mind to those that downplay the possibility of mental illness. Culturally, we have grown up thinking these things can be "toughed out", but the reality is, these conditions need help - just as people with diabetes etc need help. I too, was in the "tough it out brigade" until my wife's experience.

6. At the end of it all, there is a overwhelming probability that you will lead a normal life.

Good luck Drakkith, hopefully you can get to the bottom of your condition and sort everything out, and of course, continue to be such a fantastic contributor to PF!

Claude.
 
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  • #39
Claude Bile said:
Hi Drakkith

Firstly, I would also like to say, that your contributions to PF are extremely valuable, and I gather from the posts here that you have plenty of respect from other prominent PF members.

Having dealt with a case of mental illness recently myself (not mine, my wife's), I feel I can offer some advice.

1. Consult a psychiatrist (i.e. a doctor - psychologists are usually not doctors). Do what they say. This can (and will probably) include meds.

2. The meds will not fix you completely - but you will hopefully see a massive improvement, which may allow you to tackle whatever other issues you may have.

3. These problems are usually physiological - meaning they have a biological (i.e. chemical) cause. In other words, it's no different to having (say) diabetes or asthma, so you ought not to feel a stigma because of your condition.

4. Draw on other forms of support if you can - for example, other people that suffer from your condition - friends, family...my wife used to hide her condition under great duress, but once she "came out" the outpouring of support was overwhelming...the stigmas surrounding mental illness are less prevalent today than they were 20 years ago.

5. While they mean well, pay no mind to those that downplay the possibility of mental illness. Culturally, we have grown up thinking these things can be "toughed out", but the reality is, these conditions need help - just as people with diabetes etc need help. I too, was in the "tough it out brigade" until my wife's experience.

6. At the end of it all, there is a overwhelming probability that you will lead a normal life.

Good luck Drakkith, hopefully you can get to the bottom of your condition and sort everything out, and of course, continue to be such a fantastic contributor to PF!

Claude.
A great post.
 
  • #40
More warm wishes for you. I am a high functioning person with mental health issues and I know, like the others have mentioned, it cna't be "toughed out." Like chronic pain, it must be managed with diligent and watchful measures that in themselves seem challenging enough.

You can do this. Searching for help and seeing someone about it are the first steps, and often the hardest. It's hard to accept "flaws" or in the strictest sense, weaknesses, in who we are. Now that you know where they are, you can start to repair and manage your life better.

I know some have said exercise, and you said it didn't help. I found that interesting. For me it was some ratio of medicine, diet, exercise, and overall life outlook. By outlook, I mean that I decided to live by a very set schedule when it comes towards sleep and exercise, and I take time to "digest" what I'm feeling and how I'm coping.

Making time for yourself is very important.

Cheers
 
  • #41
zoobyshoe said:
So, you must have had physical workups. They say they're finding nothing wrong with your bloodwork and all that? The aren't finding any physical cause?

Nope, nothing.

Claude Bile said:
Good luck Drakkith, hopefully you can get to the bottom of your condition and sort everything out, and of course, continue to be such a fantastic contributor to PF!

Claude.

Thanks!
 
  • #42
I'd pat you on the back if I could.
 
  • #43
phion said:
I'd pat you on the back if I could.

I'll do it for you. :biggrin:
 
  • #44
Just an update: I've been seeing a therapist for a few months and just recently was transferred to a psychologist in the same office. She thinks that I may have expressive language disorder in addition to anything else I may have, such as ADHD, sleep issues, etc.

An example of expressive language disorder:
(She actually does better than I could. My memory and ability to summarize are FAR worse. I'd never be able to summarize a movie like that)
 
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  • #45
Don't you think the sleep problems you have may affect the results?
 
  • #46
WWGD said:
Don't you think the sleep problems you have may affect the results?

No idea. I'll have to discuss this with my psychologist.
 
  • #47
Maybe you can mention him/her that you were assigned the position of mentor here at PF, which
is not given capriciously/randomly. It would seem to counter the results of the test. Just some input.
 
  • #48
WWGD said:
Maybe you can mention him/her that you were assigned the position of mentor here at PF, which is not given capriciously/randomly. It would seem to counter the results of the test. Just some input.
Agreed. I know PF isn't quite the real world, but with a staff of professional scientists and engineers and thousands of people who value the input of said staff, it isn't an accomplishment/job I take lightly. Everyone has their issues and playing to your strengths is how you maximize your potential. Whatever you are doing here, it is working.
 
  • #49
WWGD said:
Maybe you can mention him/her that you were assigned the position of mentor here at PF, which
is not given capriciously/randomly. It would seem to counter the results of the test. Just some input.

I disagree. I can take my time when typing up a post, editing it as necessary to get it as right as possible. And even this is typically a long, laborious process that I struggle through. Talking is about an order of magnitude more difficult. To put it in simple words, communication in any form is hard. Talking is even harder.
 
  • #50
Good to see that you're working on the issues you're having, is there an effective treatment for expressive language disorder? Would practicing expressing oneself help in training the brain regions required for that function?
 
  • #51
Monique said:
Good to see that you're working on the issues you're having, is there an effective treatment for expressive language disorder? Would practicing expressing oneself help in training the brain regions required for that function?

I'm unsure honestly.
 

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