What are the roots of the cubic equation?

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The discussion revolves around a cubic equation of the form θ^3 - pθ^2 + qθ - r = 0, with specific conditions on the roots expressed as ak^-1, a, and ak. Participants are tasked with demonstrating certain properties of the roots and their relationships to the coefficients of the equation.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of the notation ak^-1, with some suggesting it may imply a geometric progression of the roots. Others are exploring the implications of the relationships between the roots and the coefficients of the polynomial.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have offered insights into the relationships between the roots and the coefficients, while others are still seeking clarification on specific terms and concepts.

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There is a noted ambiguity regarding the notation used for the roots, which has led to multiple interpretations. Additionally, the original poster has expressed difficulty in progressing with the problem, indicating a need for foundational understanding.

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θ^3 - pθ^2 +qθ - r = 0 such that p and r do not equal zero

If the roots can be written in the form ak^-1, a, and ak for some constants a and k, show that one root is q/p and that q^3 - rp^3 = 0. Also, show that if r=q^3/p^3, show that q/p is a root and that the product of the other roots is (q/p)^2

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Mind boggling, can anyone give me so much as a hint?
 
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seboastien said:
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If the roots can be written in the form ak^-1, a, and ak for some constants a and k,
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What do you mean by ak^-1 ?

Do you mean a/k , OR do you mean 1/(ak) ?
 
If the roots are x , y, and z , then

(θ -x)(θ - y)(θ - z) = θ3 - pθ2 +qθ - r
 
SammyS said:
What do you mean by ak^-1 ?

Do you mean a/k , OR do you mean 1/(ak) ?

I am hazarding a guess that he means a/k, so that the roots form a geometric progression (which was usually the basis for a lot of 'roots of polynomial' questions I used to get)
 
With a cubic expression in the form:
\begin{align}
ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d \\
\end{align}
If we call the roots [itex]\alpha[/itex], [itex]\beta[/itex] and [itex]\gamma[/itex] then:
\begin{align}
a(x-\alpha)(x-\beta)(x-\gamma) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d \\
\end{align}

Where:
\begin{align}
\alpha + \beta + \gamma = \frac{-b}{a} \\

\alpha\beta + \beta\gamma + \gamma\alpha= \frac{c}{a} \\

\alpha\beta\gamma= \frac{-d}{a} \\
\end{align}

In this specific case, a = 1. That lot should help you!
Also please notice that the 'a' I use to represent the coefficient of x cubed is not the same as the 'a' you have been given in the question.


Extra Hint (Only use if you are still stuck):




\begin{align}
\alpha\beta\gamma = \frac{a}{k} \times a \times ak = a^3
\end{align}
 
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