What Are the Secrets Behind the Number e and Its Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the mathematical constant e, particularly in the context of continuous compounding and its calculations. Participants are exploring the relationship between discrete and continuous compounding methods, specifically in relation to interest calculations.

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  • Participants are attempting to reconcile the results of discrete compounding with those of continuous compounding. Questions arise regarding the application of the formula for continuous compound interest and the differences in outcomes when using different compounding methods.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of e and its role in continuous compounding. There is recognition of the differences between discrete and continuous compounding, with attempts to clarify the necessary adjustments to the interest rate for accurate comparisons. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the equivalence of formulas for discrete and continuous compounding, as well as the implications of using different rates for achieving the same effective interest. Participants are questioning the assumptions underlying their calculations and the definitions of the terms used.

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I'm trying to figure out what the number e is all about.

100 * .1 = 110
110 * .1 = 121
110 * .1 = 133.1

that should be equal to 100e.4, right?

well, 100e.4 = 134.99, not 133.1

What am I doing wrong?
 
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I have no idea what you are doing, right or wrong. 100*.1=10. Can you explain?
 
the formula for calculating continuous compound interest is

A = Pert

Where A = final amount
P = initial amount
r = rate
t = time

if you start with 100 dollars and the rate is 10% after 3 payment periods it should be 134.99 based on the above formula.

well, 100 * 1.1 is 110, 110 * 1.1 = 121, 121 * 1.1 = 133.1, not 134.99
 
robertjford80 said:
the formula for calculating continuous compound interest is

A = Pert

Where A = final amount
P = initial amount
r = rate
t = time

if you start with 100 dollars and the rate is 10% after 3 payment periods it should be 134.99 based on the above formula.

well, 100 * 1.1 is 110, 110 * 1.1 = 121, 121 * 1.1 = 133.1, not 134.99

Your formula is only valid for continuously compounded interest. Not for interest paid at intervals.
 
ok, thanks, i thought they were the same but i was wrong.
 
e is what happens when you continuously compound something over an infinitely short interval.
[itex]x\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}∞[/itex] (1+[itex]\frac{1}{x}[/itex])x=e
 
robertjford80 said:
ok, thanks, i thought they were the same but i was wrong.

They can be made to give the same results at integer values of time t = 1,2,3,..., but you need to adjust the rate. In order to have a continuous interest rate r give a true annual interest of i you need to have
[tex]e^r = 1 + i, \text{ or } r = \ln(1+i).[/tex]

In your example, to get a true annual interest rate of 10% you need to take a continuous interest rate of 9.531017980%, giving r = 0.0953101798. If you take, instead, a continuous rate of 10% you get a true annual rate of [itex]i = e^{0.1}-1 = 0.105170918,[/itex] or about 10.5171%. This is the origin of the differences you note.

RGV
 

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