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Calling ALL Chemists !
what bond is this?
what bond is this?
What Bond Is This?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the identification of bonds in a dopamine molecule, exploring both the chemical structure and the biological implications of dopamine's role in pleasure and motivation. Participants engage in a mix of chemistry and neuroscience, touching on the complexities of dopamine beyond its simplistic association with happiness.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants identify the molecule in question as dopamine and discuss its structure.
- There is a suggestion that all bonds in dopamine are covalent, although the specific bond of interest is not clarified.
- One participant humorously refers to the bond as "a bond for life," indicating a playful engagement with the topic.
- Another participant elaborates on the complexity of dopamine's role, suggesting it is more about reward anticipation than the experience of pleasure itself.
- Discussions arise about the implications of low dopamine levels, linking it to various conditions such as depression and Parkinson's disease.
- There is a claim that the cause of Parkinson's disease is the death of dopamine-excreting cells, but the exact cause of this cell death remains unknown.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree that the molecule is dopamine and that it involves covalent bonds. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of dopamine on pleasure and motivation, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the complexities of its biological functions.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include the lack of clarity on which specific bond is being referred to, as well as the unresolved nature of the biological implications of dopamine's role in pleasure and motivation.
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trollcast
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I think that's the structure for a dopamine molecule
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Do you mean to ask what the bonds are or what molecule it is? Because it's dopamine.
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Dopamine? the thing that makes you happy? interesting...
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ZeroPivot said:
Covalent one.
Not that I know which bond you are interested in, but all bonds in the molecule of this particular compound are covalent, so I bet it is a correct answer.
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ZeroPivot said:
A bond for life*?
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*A rather geeky one at that...
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lisab
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Enigman said:A bond for life*?
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*A rather geeky one at that...
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ZeroPivot said:
Actually it's far more complicated than that, some studies suggest that without dopamine it is possible for a creature to experience pleasure but will not have any drive to seek pleasure. Thus dopamine could be important in reward anticipation rather than reward itself.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18320725
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Ryan_m_b said:
low dopamine = low sex drive?
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ZeroPivot said:
Dopamine is involved in many different processes and low dopamine is associated with depression, ADHD and Parkinson's to name a few.
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Ryan_m_b said:
oh damn, so to avoid parkinson have lots of fun?
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Parkinson's is caused by the death of dopamine excreting cells, the exact cause of the die off is unknown but it isn't because sufferers didn't have enough fun.
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Ryan_m_b said:
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