What Books Compare to Godel Escher Bach?

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The discussion revolves around finding books that evoke a similar sense of wonder and insight as Douglas Hofstadter's "Gödel, Escher, Bach." Participants share their experiences and seek recommendations for comparable reading material, touching on themes of mathematics, philosophy, and consciousness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for books that provide a similar impact as "Gödel, Escher, Bach," describing it as the most entertaining and enlightening book they've read.
  • Another suggests re-reading "Gödel, Escher, Bach" with notes for deeper understanding.
  • A participant proposes reading a topology book for its imaginative concepts, such as the idea of reaching the same point after multiple rotations.
  • Recommendations for other works by Douglas Hofstadter are made, including "Le Ton beau de Marot" and "I am a Strange Loop," with the latter noted as particularly connected to "Gödel, Escher, Bach."
  • Another suggestion includes "Infinity and the Mind" by Rudy Rucker, which is said to explore similar themes.
  • One participant encourages studying the mathematics of Gödel and the geometries in Escher's work.
  • A participant acknowledges the need for more readable options due to existing commitments to extracurricular math books.
  • Another participant mentions their intention to read critically acclaimed books on consciousness after finishing "Gödel, Escher, Bach," citing authors like Elizabeth Schechter, Dan Dennett, and Peter Godfrey-Smith.
  • Lastly, "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and its follow-up "Lila" by Robert Pirsig are mentioned as books that link mathematics, metaphysics, philosophy, and perception.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a shared appreciation for "Gödel, Escher, Bach" and a desire for similar books, but there is no consensus on specific recommendations or the best approach to finding comparable works.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions depend on personal interpretations of what makes a book comparable to "Gödel, Escher, Bach," and the recommendations vary widely in thematic focus and complexity.

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Since I read godel escher bach I've been trying to find something that will blow me away in the same way as this book did. By far the most entertaining, enlightening book I've ever read.
Anyone else feel the same way? Can you recommend something comparable?
 
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Read it again. Take notes this time. :p
 
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Read a topology book?
It allows for some funny stuff to imagine (go 2n times around to reach the same point, go 2n+1 times around and be somewhere new is an example).
 
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To the OP:

Have you read any of the other books by Douglas Hofstadter? He's written many other books after GEB. For example,

1. Le Ton beau de Marot: In Praise of the Music of language (1997)
2. I am a Strange Loop (2007)

Book #2 seems especially connected, at least from what I've heard, to GEB.

If you're interested in other authors with similarly eclectic interests, why not consider the book Infinity and the Mind, by Rudy Rucker, which deals with a number of similar themes to GED.
 
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Why not actually try to study the mathematics of Gödel and the geometries that appear in Escher?
 
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thanks statguy I'll definitely check those out :)
on studying the maths instead, well I've already got a few extracurricular maths books I'm working on so I need something more readable
 
kiwi-awoo said:
Since I read godel escher bach I've been trying to find something that will blow me away in the same way as this book did. By far the most entertaining, enlightening book I've ever read.
Anyone else feel the same way? Can you recommend something comparable?

I'm still reading it, but the first thing I will do when I'm done is read other critically acclaimed books on consciousness to see how the ideas compare to GEB.
Elizabeth Schechter, Dan Dennet and Peter Godfrey-Smith's books all come to mind.

As far as equivalent books in general:
Pirsig's "Zen and the Art.." and its follow up: "Lila" are the only ones that come to mind. He shows a common thread that links Mathematics, Metaphysics, Philosophy and Perception, as well as Motivation and Education, and in the second book, Ethics and Anthropology.
 

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