What Car Delivers 200+ HP and 30 City/40 Highway MPG?

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The discussion revolves around finding a car that delivers 200+ horsepower while achieving 30 city and 40 highway miles per gallon. Participants explore various models, their performance metrics, and personal preferences, covering both new and used options.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the Civic Si and RSX Type S as options, noting their horsepower and fuel economy figures.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for the RSX, while also mentioning the Smart Car and Mini Cooper.
  • Some participants recommend the Subaru WRX STI for speed, while others criticize the RSX's interior quality.
  • The Mitsubishi Evolution is mentioned as a powerful option, but its fuel economy is questioned.
  • A participant suggests the Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Limited for its handling and traction, although it has lower horsepower than requested.
  • The Honda Accord Hybrid is proposed as a potential match for performance requirements, with slightly lower horsepower and fuel economy figures.
  • Several participants express strong negative opinions about Smart Cars, citing poor handling and stability.
  • One participant mentions the Renault Megane 225 Cup as a suitable option available in Europe, noting its horsepower and fuel economy, but highlights the lack of US dealers.
  • Another participant discusses the financial implications of buying new versus used cars, suggesting that a used car may be a better investment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on specific car models, with no clear consensus on the best option. Disagreements arise regarding the desirability of Smart Cars and the practicality of certain models based on performance and fuel economy.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific performance metrics and personal experiences, but there are unresolved questions regarding the reliability of fuel economy figures and the availability of certain models in the US market.

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Individuals interested in purchasing a car that balances horsepower with fuel efficiency, as well as those looking for insights on various car models and personal experiences shared by other drivers.

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whats a good car that has possibly 200+ hp and that can get 30 city and 40 highway?

so far the 2 cars i found are:
civic si / rsx type s: about 200/23/32
subaru wrx sti: 297/19/25
 
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I'm a fan of the Smart Car and the Mini Cooper!

Out of those, I'd go for the RSX. Nice car.

You going brand new?
 
JasonRox said:
I'm a fan of the Smart Car and the Mini Cooper!

Out of those, I'd go for the RSX. Nice car.

You going brand new?

preferably yes, but i can do with anything that is 50k and below in mileage
 
If you want something that will just go, I'd get an Accord or Camry.

If you want something fast, I would get the Subaru and not the Civic or RSX.

Inside the RSX feels like a cheap piece of crap.

I'm a fan of the Smart Car and the Mini Cooper!

:smile: Youch.
 
the new mini s isn't that bad, 179 hp but mpg is undetermined as of right now...and for some reason they don't even list the weight. if the weight is around 2300s i might just be thinking of getting it
 
I had a 2 door fully loaded olds alero (dont laugh just because its an oldsmobile it was an awesome car :P) and I loved it. Great car, very good power, around 30 city and 38 highway and handled great.
 
Go test drive them all! :) If I HAD to make a blind choice, I'd pick the civic, just because I like them. :-)
 
Quadruple Bypass said:
whats a good car that has possibly 200+ hp and that can get 30 city and 40 highway?

so far the 2 cars i found are:
civic si / rsx type s: about 200/23/32
subaru wrx sti: 297/19/25

Easiest choice ever:

Mitsubishi Evolution ~32k $

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/evo/06/index.do

...4.9-second 0-to-60-mph and a 13.3 quarter-mile at 103 mph...

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-03-23/2006-mitsubishi-evolution-ix-vs-2006-subaru-wrx-sti/
 
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the evolution definitely won't get 30 city though :P Beautiful car though.
 
  • #11
dontdisturbmycircles said:
the evolution definitely won't get 30 city though :P Beautiful car though.

oh yeah... :) not at all, I think it gets around ~18 actually
 
  • #12
Are you a normal driver or do you have some track/off road experience?
 
  • #13
Mini's are good, smarts are awful! Good idea, implemented all wrong, plus the 4 door are way over priced
 
  • #14
I don't know where you are but I'm in europe and the car I would choose would bee the renualt Megane 225 cup. That has 225bhp and does a combined 33.2 mpg.
 
  • #15
Smart cars suck, i work on them and they are terrible. I would get a civic type R or the sport version.
 
  • #16
Kurdt said:
I don't know where you are but I'm in europe and the car I would choose would bee the renualt Megane 225 cup. That has 225bhp and does a combined 33.2 mpg.

wow that's a sweet ride. i wonder how much they cost here in the US though, if they even sell them here.

if i had enough money id buy the lotus exige, but i am a poor mofo, so yea =/
 
  • #17
Quadruple Bypass said:
wow that's a sweet ride. i wonder how much they cost here in the US though, if they even sell them here.

if i had enough money id buy the lotus exige, but i am a poor mofo, so yea =/

Well they're about £18000 here in the Uk but I suppose you could find out where they're cheapest in europe and find out how much it would cost to ship in. But its a bit of a kerfuffle I guess. Could always see if they have US dealer.
 
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If you want good gas mileage, superb handling and wonderful traction in any conditions, consider Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT limited. My wife has a base level Legacy (about 5 years old), and with it's AWD you cannot make it squeak a tire. It only puts about 160hp, but it is really torquey and responsive. The 2.5 GT is intercooled and turbocharged and puts out 245 hp. I'd like to try one, but am afraid that I would then want to buy one.

The styling of the Legacy is laid-back and is less likely to attract the interest of the gendarmes than some of the sportier designs. That might save you money in the future (fines and insurance) if you're a bit of a lead-foot.
 
  • #19
DON'T get a smart car. Ever.
 
  • #20
Andy, I saw a Smart with a Yamaha R1 engine in it the other day...
 
  • #21
Don't buy a new car, for starters. A new car loses 20% of its sticker value as soon as it leaves the lot. You're much better buying a car that's 1 - 2 years old.

Or, you can buy an old beater for 1/10th the price. I bought my car 4 years ago for 2500 bucks, and it still runs just fine.
 
  • #22
i'd like the Spyker C8... *drools*

Awesome interior.
Great exterior.

And its dutch... i love dutch stuff :P

and since we're on the topic of saving then its cheaper to take Public transport until or if you find someone to share the car with, saves a great deal.
 
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  • #23
The Honda Accord Hybrid is probably the only car that will get you anywhere close to your performance requirements. It is 235hp and gets 28/35.
 
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Well I had a quick glance around the web and as I feared renault have no dealers in the US. Shame because that megane was almost exactly what you required.
 
  • #25
I smart roadster will be ok with the R1 engine in it, but the roofs on them are terrible. Might as well be made from chicken wire. A smart fortwo with the R1 engine would very quickly kill you. They are simply the most unstable and worst handling cars ever.

NEVER EVER buy a smart car.
 
  • #26
Yes Andy, it was the original Smart, before they even built a shedload of understeer in for safety!

I would imagine it's in a ditch or tree by now.

I drove a Smart once, it was fun in the same way that driving a go-kart on the motorway would be fun.
 
  • #27
Kurdt said:
Well I had a quick glance around the web and as I feared renault have no dealers in the US. Shame because that megane was almost exactly what you required.

yup, its a damn shame too
 

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