MHB What caused the wrong answer for determining the center and radius of Circle 2?

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The discussion focuses on determining the center and radius of a circle from the equation 3x^2 + 3y^2 + 5x - 4y = 1. A computation error was identified in the right side of the equation, where 1/3 should replace 1/4, affecting the calculation of the radius. The correct center is established as (-5/6, 2/3), while the radius is recalculated to be sqrt(53)/6 instead of the initially proposed value. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the procedure over simply obtaining the correct answer. The discussion highlights the significance of careful computation in solving geometric problems.
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Why not continue and find out?

Doing so will give you experience, and experience will allow you to answer these sorts of question for yourself in future situations.
 

3x^2 + 3y^2 + 5x - 4y = 1

3x^2 + 5x + 3y^2 - 4y = 1

x^2 + (5/3)x + y^2 -(4/3)y = 1/4

Half of (5/3) is (5/6). Then (5/6)^2 = (25/36).

Half of -(4/3) is -(2/3). Then (-2/3)^2 = (4/9).

We add (25/36) and (4/9) on both sides of the equation.

x^2 + (5/3)x + (25/36) + y^2 -(4/3)y + (4/9) = (1/4) + (25/36) + (4/9)

Factor left side and calculate the right side.

(x + 5/6)(x + 5/6) + (y - 2/3)(y - 2/3) = (25/18)

(x + 5/6)^2 + (y - 2/3)^2 = (25/18)

The center is (h, k) = (-5/6, 2/3).

Let r = radius

r^2 = (25/18)

sqrt{r^2} = sqrt{25/18}

r = [5•sqrt{2}]/6

Is this correct?
 
RTCNTC said:
3x^2 + 3y^2 + 5x - 4y = 1

3x^2 + 5x + 3y^2 - 4y = 1

x^2 + (5/3)x + y^2 -(4/3)y = 1/4
= 1/3, not 1/4.

Half of (5/3) is (5/6). Then (5/6)^2 = (25/36).

Half of -(4/3) is -(2/3). Then (-2/3)^2 = (4/9).

We add (25/36) and (4/9) on both sides of the equation.

x^2 + (5/3)x + (25/36) + y^2 -(4/3)y + (4/9) = (1/4) + (25/36) + (4/9)
Again, the right side should be 1/3+ 25/36+ 4/9. 1/3, not 1/4.

Factor left side and calculate the right side.

(x + 5/6)(x + 5/6) + (y - 2/3)(y - 2/3) = (25/18)

(x + 5/6)^2 + (y - 2/3)^2 = (25/18)
1/3+ 25/36+ 4/9= 12/36+ 25/36+ 16/36= 53/36
The center is (h, k) = (-5/6, 2/3).

Let r = radius

r^2 = (25/18)

sqrt{r^2} = sqrt{25/18}

r = [5•sqrt{2}]/6

Is this correct?
Not the radius. The radius is sqrt(53}/6.
 
On the right side, I should have 1/3, as you said, not 1/4. Simple computation error that led to the wrong answer. Overall, I understand the procedure which is more important.
 

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