What determines the solubility of a solute in a solvent?

[abi.ayan]

Is it breaking of intermolecular forces or breaking of intramolecular forces?

 

[djh101]

Intermolecular. When you dissolve table salt, the bonds between the sodium and chloride are being broken and the ions dispersed throughout the liquid. When you dissolve sugar (I think this are the two most popular substances used to illustrate dissolving), the bonds between sucrose molecules are being broken. The reason these substances are solid is because of the intermolecular bonding between molecules so these are the bonds that must be broken to take them to the aqueous state.

 

[Borek]

Intermolecular. When you dissolve table salt, the bonds between the sodium and chloride are being broken and the ions dispersed throughout the liquid.

I would not classify forces between sodium and chloride in NaCl as intermolecular.

 

[Borek]

http://physics.tutorcircle.com/forces/types-of-forces.html

Intermolecular is between different molecules.Intramolecular is within a single molecule.

Show me a single molecule of NaCl.

 

[abi.ayan]

Though the attraction between the ions in ionic bond is stronger than the intermolecular forces between the molecules ,ionic compounds dissolve in water but not covalent compounds?can anyone explain??

 

[Borek]

Though the attraction between the ions in ionic bond is stronger than the intermolecular forces between the molecules ,ionic compounds dissolve in water but not covalent compounds?can anyone explain??

Glucose is a covalent compound, yet it nicely dissolves in water. Ethanol is a covalent compound that is miscible with water (in other words, it has an infinite solubility). Hard to say where and how, but you apparently have some misconceptions about solubility.

 

[djh101]

I would not classify forces between sodium and chloride in NaCl as intermolecular.

Interionic would probably be a better term. Although, to quote Wikipedia,

Intermolecular forces are forces of attraction or repulsion which act between neighboring particles (atoms, molecules or ions).

 

[djh101]

Though the attraction between the ions in ionic bond is stronger than the intermolecular forces between the molecules ,ionic compounds dissolve in water but not covalent compounds?can anyone explain??

Water is polar, so its poles are attracted to the charged ions. If you try to dissolve a nonpolar compound in water, the attraction is weak and entropy favors maximizing water bonding to itself.

 

[sgstudent]

Water is polar, so its poles are attracted to the charged ions. If you try to dissolve a nonpolar compound in water, the attraction is weak and entropy favors maximizing water bonding to itself.

So something like even though if the water tried to break open the non polar molecules it would relatively easy to do so, it doesn't want to as there is no attraction between them.

But for something like NaCl, even though its really hard to break them apart water now has a incentive as its actually attracted to the charged Na+ and Cl- so it actively tries to break them up. So as a result NaCl is able to dissolve despite the stronger interionic/intermolecular forces?

Is this correct?

 

[djh101]

Well there are Van der Waals forces at work. The reason isn't that there's no attraction but that the attraction between the polar solvent molecules and themselves is stronger and would be disrupted by dissolving the solute. The reason oil forms droplets in water is because this minimizes the surface area of oil exposure to water and maximizes water's ability to hydrogen bond. This is known as the hydrophobic effect.

And yes, water is strongly attracted to NaCl ions and would like to break it apart. Although the bond strength between single ions is stronger than that between a single water molecule and an ion, there are a lot more water molecules than ions and they basically gang up on the ions to overpower the ionic bonding.

 

[guyknowslittle]

solvation or dissolution describes the association of a solute and a solvent such that the mixture reaches its lowest energy configuration (most desirable or comfortable arrangement). like the term implies, the association is based on similarities between solute and solvent. a polar solute will dissolve well in a polar solvent (like water or acetonitrile). on the other hand, nonpolar solutes will dissolve well in nonpolar solvents (like hexane or toluene).

it is important to realize that there is no clear cut-off between polar and nonpolar solvents and these are just concepts based on properties such as dielectric constants or dipole moments which assign a numerical value to the polarity in or between solvent molecules. (you can google dielectric constant of solvents for lists and tables) water has a value of about 80 and toluene is about 2.

so based on the assymetry in the structure of a molecule (or crystal) chemists can try and match proper solvents with solutes. (an asymmetric molecule will be polar, like NaCl or H2O, a symmetric one will be non-polar, like O2, N2 or Ch3Ch2Ch2Ch3) this can also be computed ab inito if needed with pretty good accuracy.

in practical terms, it always challenging to find solvents which will dissolve starting materials or products when novel synthetic reactions are carried out and the success of the synthesis is many times dependent on the solubility of materials in solvents.