What Do People Think Of Competency Based Degrees Such as Texas A&M Commerce

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The discussion revolves around the concept of competency-based degrees, specifically focusing on the program offered by Texas A&M Commerce. Participants explore the implications of such degrees for students in STEM fields, including efficiency, flexibility, and the potential for rapid advancement in education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the affordability and speed of obtaining a degree in General Studies with a focus on STEM electives, suggesting it makes pursuing a Master's degree more feasible.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of in-person attendance and laboratory activities, indicating that competency-based education may require structured contracts for such components.
  • Participants note that competency-based education could be particularly beneficial for career professionals, those transitioning between industries, and students with partial college credits.
  • There is a discussion about the efficiency of competency-based education, with examples given of how it allows for accelerated learning, such as completing a sequence of calculus courses in a condensed timeframe.
  • Some express a preference for a mixed-mode educational model that combines online lectures with in-person tutorials, reflecting on their own educational experiences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of support and concern regarding competency-based degrees. While some see the potential benefits in terms of flexibility and efficiency, others emphasize the importance of traditional in-person elements in education. No consensus is reached on the overall effectiveness of such programs.

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Participants mention various educational backgrounds and experiences, indicating that the effectiveness of competency-based education may depend on individual learning styles and circumstances. There are also references to the historical context of education delivery, which may influence current perceptions.

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See:
https://www.tamuc.edu/cbe/

The degree people interested in STEM would do is the degree in General Studies with the free 66 electives done in their STEM field eg Math:
https://www.tamuc.edu/programs/general-studies-competency-based/#tamuc-section-307935

Because it is so cheap and fast, doing a Master's after looks quite doable - they even mention some postgrad can be done undergrad:
https://coursecatalog.tamuc.edu/gra...ience-engineering/mathematics/mathematics-ms/

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I only read the first paragraph in the first article referenced, so I may be missing on much.

Some attendance in-person in a classroom and some laboratory activity needs to be included. Contracts need to be arranged. Competency-based education does occur for some secondary level instruction, and can be great for some students.
 
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They say it is designed for
  • Career professionals seeking advancement within their industry
  • Career movers exploring new industries
  • Degree finishers with partial college credit from community college, WECM or the military
It is an interesting idea.
 
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Frabjous said:
Degree finishers with partial college credit from community college, WECM or the military

These days, many students take dual credit at high school and sometimes even graduate with the 60 credits required for an Associate's degree. They have very flexible credit policies, so you likely will get credit for the whole 60 credits.

It is very efficient for those types of students. Competency-based education is very flexible and efficient.
As was pointed out by Elon Musk, what we do now is subjects are done each semester, with two 14 or 15 week semesters a year. Consider the Calculus 1, 2, 3 sequence. You do one each semester over three semesters or 1.5 years. In the competency model, you have 3 semesters of two 7 week terms each. What can be done is in the one 7-week term, you can do the whole sequence. Rose Hullman, in 5 weeks before commencing your studies, once did just that, so it is certainly doable.

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symbolipoint said:
Some attendance in-person in a classroom and some laboratory activity needs to be included. Contracts need to be arranged. Competency-based education does occur for some secondary level instruction, and can be great for some students.

For sure.

I did my degree part-time before the internet was even a glint in anyone's eye.

The way it worked was you attended the lectures where the professor lectured. Of course, you could see him/her after the lecture, especially if you were a shite like me asking questions more suitable for a pure math class than an applied math one (the stories I could regale about that). Then, you had timetabled tutorials where the professors and teaching assistants helped with questions, the exercises handed out at the end of the the lecture, or assignments.

These days, students can easily attend lectures at their convenience, attend tutorials, and complete assignments at their own pace.

But yes, although offered entirely online, I personally prefer the mixed-mode model of online lectures and in-person tutorials.

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