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Besides obtaining an outstanding GPA, what are the major things that graduate schools look for in candidates? Any input is greatly appreciated, but please do try to provide a bit more detail.
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timothyc said:Besides obtaining an outstanding GPA, what are the major things that graduate schools look for in candidates? Any input is greatly appreciated, but please do try to provide a bit more detail.
Vanadium 50 said:Twofish is correct - they want to select students who will "survive and thrive". So doing well in a research environment is important. Publication - which at the undergrad level is something driven more by luck than anything else - is much less important.
Vanadium 50 said:Nano-Passion is speaking from the perspective of a college sophomore. So he's not speaking from experience and is even less familiar with this that you are.
Twofish is correct - they want to select students who will "survive and thrive". So doing well in a research environment is important. Publication - which at the undergrad level is something driven more by luck than anything else - is much less important.
R.P.F. said:Suppose that I'm the first author of a publication on one of the selective journals (the Phys. Rev. series, for example), does that not give me an advantage in applying to grad school? Thanks!
Nano-Passion said:
R.P.F. said:Your comment on undergraduate publication intrigued a question. Suppose that I'm the first author of a publication on one of the selective journals (the Phys. Rev. series, for example), does that not give me an advantage in applying to grad school
prettymidget said:I'm not a PhD candidate but looking at profiles of admitted student at highly ranked/top schools the PGRE is very important.
Vanadium 50 said:Compared to what? Someone who did no research? Sure. Someone who spent as much time doing research but wasn't the first author of a paper? In that case, the letters which describe what the student actually did and actually learned will be far more valuable.
twofish-quant said:For example, one thing that the committee will try to figure out if you have an undergraduate publication is how much work you actually did. Being first author is *much* less impressive than having a recommendation letter that goes into detail about what a good researcher you were.
R.P.F. said:He seemed to be impressed by my work, but I don't think he could say much about me.
twofish-quant said:I think that people are overly obsessed with this "top school" "school ranking" non-sense.
Something to point out is that Harvard Business School graduates about 900 students each year.
The *total* number of physics Ph.D.'s issued by all schools in the United States is between 1000 and 1500 each year.
If *anyone* accepts you, then you are in good shape. Because there is this huge pool of foreign graduate students, even the *worst* physics graduate schools by whatever criterion you choose to use in the US can set pretty high standards for who gets in.
The other thing is that physics departments are very different from each other. Quick question: which is better the local burger joint or a five-star French restaurant? The answer really depends on whether you like French food or not, how much money you want to spend, etc. etc. etc.
prettymidget said:Looking at university faculties the overwhelming majority of professors having attended prestigious programs gives you some indication what you should strive toward if your objective is to go into academia.
prettymidget said:What is the significance of the Harvard business school analogy?
However I believe (as do many others) that the importance of going to a "top" program is self-perpetuating to the point where it has real world significance. Looking at university faculties the overwhelming majority of professors having attended prestigious programs gives you some indication what you should strive toward if your objective is to go into academia.
Likewise in industry employers in general I'm sure are far more swayed by a doctorate from MIT than one from Arkansas state.
If your objective is to learn physics then yes, you are doing great. But looking at opportunities beyond the next six years paints a very different picture.
Another motivating factor is a personal feeling of satisfaction. People want to associate with prestigious institutions to assess their own self worth (however ridiculous this might be) by going to the universities that the giants in the field are associated with.
Physics graduate schools typically prefer applicants who have hands-on research experience in a laboratory setting. This could include working on a research project with a professor, completing a summer research program, or conducting independent research. It is important for applicants to demonstrate their ability to conduct research and contribute to the scientific community.
While a degree in physics or a related field is preferred, it is not always a requirement for admission to graduate school. Many physics graduate programs value a diverse range of backgrounds and may consider applicants with degrees in engineering, mathematics, or other scientific fields. What is most important is that the applicant has a strong foundation in physics and can excel in graduate-level coursework.
In addition to a strong academic background, physics graduate schools typically value applicants who possess critical thinking skills, problem-solving abilities, and a passion for research. They also look for qualities such as perseverance, curiosity, and the ability to work well in a team. Applicants should showcase these skills and qualities in their application materials.
The GRE (Graduate Record Examination) is just one aspect of the application process for physics graduate school. While a high score on the GRE can certainly strengthen an application, it is not the sole factor in admissions decisions. Admissions committees also consider an applicant's research experience, letters of recommendation, and statement of purpose.
Publications and presentations are not always required for admission to a physics graduate program, but they can certainly strengthen an applicant's profile. They demonstrate that the applicant has experience in communicating and disseminating research findings, which is an important aspect of being a successful scientist. However, research experience and strong academic performance are typically the most important factors in the admissions process.