What do we know about the formula for air drag force?

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The discussion centers on the complexities of deriving the formula for air drag force, particularly in relation to speeds exceeding Mach 0.3. The drag force is expressed as drag force = Cd v², where the drag coefficient (Cd) is a function of velocity and must be interpolated from empirical data. The Navier-Stokes Equations provide a theoretical framework for understanding fluid dynamics, but they often lack analytic solutions, necessitating computational fluid dynamics (CFD) for practical applications. The existence of solutions to these equations remains an open question, highlighting the ongoing challenges in the field.

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Is it the typical "get some results and stack the maths together and chuck in some constants to make it fit to get some approximation" or do we understand the rules behind it to derive the formula, such as how the molecules repel each other and how energy is transferred depending on temperature, velocity, etc
 
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If you're considering speeds greater than Mach 0.3, it gets complicated. In order to use the simple formula where drag force = Cd v2, Cd becomes a function of v, interpolated from measured or calculated values in a table. Wiki article, note table showing how drag coefficient varies with Mach (speed). In the wiki example, Cd is near constant until Mach 0.4 (it's also possible that when the table was generated, values of Cd for speed less than Mach 0.4 weren't important, so a constant Cd was chosen, not measured).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_ballistics#Doppler_radar-measurements
 
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victorhugo said:
Is it the typical "get some results and stack the maths together and chuck in some constants to make it fit to get some approximation" or do we understand the rules behind it to derive the formula, such as how the molecules repel each other and how energy is transferred depending on temperature, velocity, etc
It is both.
We do understand the rules quite well, see Navier-Stokes Equations, unfortunately most of the time they do not have analytic solutions (*) so it's either heavy-duty number crunching CFD or back to method #1.

(*) And we don't even know if solutions exist. It is quite literally a million-dollar question, see http://www.claymath.org/millennium-problems
 
Probably. Sure worth a try :rolleyes: ... twice therefore !
 

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