What do you need to establish that spin is conserved?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the conditions necessary to establish that spin is a conserved quantity in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the relationship between spin and angular momentum, and the contexts in which spin conservation may or may not apply.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what is needed to assert that spin is conserved, noting that spin lacks a clear classical interpretation and is often treated as a form of angular momentum.
  • Another participant argues that spin is not inherently a conserved quantity, stating that total angular momentum is the conserved quantity, and that spin can only be considered conserved in specific situations where orbital angular momentum is either zero or conserved independently.
  • References to Leslie E. Ballentine's "Quantum Mechanics: A Modern Development" are mentioned as a source for further clarification on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conservation of spin, with one asserting that it is not generally conserved while another seeks clarification on the conditions for its conservation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific criteria for establishing spin conservation.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific conditions under which spin may be considered conserved, but these conditions are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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What do you need to establish that spin is a conserved quantity?
Hi.

Question as in the summary.
Spin has no obvious classical interpretation but it is often a conserved quantity and considered as some sort of angular momentum. What do you need to establish that spin is a conserved quantity? I'm finding references to situations where spin is not a conserved quantity in general but only in some processes. Hence, what is needed to assert conservation?

Any replies or references to existing discussions or proofs would save me time and be appreciated. Thank you for your time.
 
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Spin has no obvious classical interpretation but it is often a conserved quantity and considered as some sort of angular momentum.
No, spin by itself is not "often" a conserved quantity. Total angular momentum is the conserved quantity. Only in situations where orbital angular momentum is either identically zero or is conserved on its own can spin be considered a conserved quantity by itself.

As for spin being "some sort of" angular momentum, that's much too vague. Spin is whatever part of total angular momentum is not orbital angular momentum. See, for example, Ballentine, Chapter 7.
 
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Thank you. I'll look for that when I get to a library.
Found: "Quantum Mechanics: A Modern Development" by Leslie E. Ballentine.
No great need to reply - I'll assume it's that book unless you say otherwise.
 
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Found: "Quantum Mechanics: A Modern Development" by Leslie E. Ballentine.
Yes, that's it.
 
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