What does complex conjugate of a derivate mean?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the expression for the complex conjugate of a derivative operator, specifically whether the operator {\left( {\frac{d}{{dx}}} \right)^ * } is Hermitian. Participants explore the implications of different interpretations of the operator in the context of quantum mechanics and mathematical definitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the expression means to differentiate first and then take the complex conjugate, or vice versa.
  • One participant suggests that if ##x## is real, the two interpretations (a and b) are equivalent.
  • Another participant proposes that in the context of quantum mechanics, the exercise likely aims to determine if the operator is self-adjoint on the space of square-integrable functions.
  • There is a mention that the star applied to operators typically denotes the adjoint operator, which can be found using integration by parts.
  • One participant references a specific textbook and a Wikipedia page for further clarification on Hermitian operators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the operator's meaning and its implications for Hermitian properties, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of ##x## (whether real or complex) and the context of the discussion (quantum mechanics) may affect the interpretation of the operator. The discussion does not resolve these assumptions.

jstrunk
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An exercise asks me to determine whether the following operator is Hermitian:
<br /> {\left( {\frac{d}{{dx}}} \right)^ * }.<br />

I don't even know what that expression means.
a) Differentiate with respect to x, then take the complex conjugate of the result?
b) Take the complex conjugate, then differentiate with respect to x?
c) {\left( {\frac{d}{{dx}}} \right)^ * } = \frac{d}{{d{x^*}}} = \frac{d}{{dx}}?

Can someone clarify?
 
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If ##x## is real then (a) and (b) are the same, so it probably means those.
 
jstrunk said:
An exercise asks me to determine whether the following operator is Hermitian:
<br /> {\left( {\frac{d}{{dx}}} \right)^ * }.<br />

I don't even know what that expression means.
a) Differentiate with respect to x, then take the complex conjugate of the result?
b) Take the complex conjugate, then differentiate with respect to x?
c) {\left( {\frac{d}{{dx}}} \right)^ * } = \frac{d}{{d{x^*}}} = \frac{d}{{dx}}?

Can someone clarify?
The derivative wrt x of ##i\,g\left( x\right) +f\left( x\right) ## is ##i\,\left( \frac{d}{d\,x}\,g\left( x\right) \right) +\frac{d}{d\,x}\,f\left( x\right) ##.
Nuff said ?
 
jstrunk said:
An exercise

In what textbook?
 
andrewkirk said:
If ##x## is real then (a) and (b) are the same, so it probably means those.
If the original question is the context of QM, then I'll bet it doesn't mean either of those. Rather, the exercise probably intends to determine whether ##d/dx## is self-adjoint on the space of square-integrable functions.

In that case, @jstrunk: you should probably take a look at the Wikipedia page for "hermitian operators". :oldbiggrin:
 
The star applied to operators generally means the adjoint operator. For differential operators you can find it using integration by parts.
 

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