What does det mean in physics and math?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning and significance of "det" in the context of physics and mathematics, particularly focusing on its relation to determinants of matrices. Participants explore its applications in solving systems of linear equations and matrix inversion.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that "det" refers to the determinant of a matrix, which is a rectangular arrangement of numbers.
  • It is noted that the determinant is primarily used to solve systems of linear equations and is crucial for inverting square matrices.
  • One participant questions the necessity of calculating the determinant for matrix inversion, suggesting that the Gauss-Jordan method can be used without it if the matrix is invertible.
  • A participant acknowledges their limited experience in higher-level math and appreciates the clarification regarding the determinant's role.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the determinant in the process of matrix inversion, with some asserting its importance while others challenge this claim. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of the determinant in all cases of matrix inversion.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the role of the determinant in matrix inversion, with some assumptions about the methods used for finding inverses remaining unexamined.

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I'm new to physics and I see "det" used in math a lot. What does it mean?
 
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It means to take the determinant of a matrix.
 
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Yeah, a matrix is a rectangular arrangement of numbers and the details means taking the determinant. Look up matrices and determinants on the net. Or better yet, there's a good course in linear algebra on iTunes u ( the one with Gilbert Strang) check it out
 
The "determinant" of a matrix is mostly used to solve systems of linear equations. It has multiple uses, but most notably, finding the determinant is a crucial step in inverting a square (##n \times n##) matrix. If you plan on pursuing high level math, physics, or engineering, you'll need to know what the determinant is and how to interpret it.
 
AMenendez said:
finding the determinant is a crucial step in inverting a square (##n \times n##) matrix

Is it?
 
AMenendez said:
finding the determinant is a crucial step in inverting a square (##n \times n##) matrix
Borek said:
Is it?
I agree with Borek here (in his questioning of your statement about the determinant being a crucial step in inverting a matrix.

Certainly if det(A) = 0, the inverse of A doesn't exist, but for an invertible matrix A, you can find the inverse using Gauss-Jordan without ever taking the determinant. If it turns out that A isn't invertible, the Gauss-Jordan process will end up with a matrix with one or more rows of zeros (instead of the identity matrix) on the left side of your augmented matrix.
 
That makes sense. I'm a first-year undergrad and the highest level of math I've had is linear algebra, so I'm just pulling out of the bag of tricks I have so far. Thanks for pointing that out.
 

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