What does 'dv and dx' mean in f = eta X A (dv/dx)?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of 'dv' and 'dx' in the context of the equation f = eta A (dv/dx), which relates to the coefficient of viscosity in fluid dynamics.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the meaning of 'dv' and 'dx' in the equation, questioning their specific roles in the context of viscosity.
  • Some participants explain that 'dv/dx' represents the rate of change of velocity with respect to distance, using analogies to illustrate the concept.
  • Others introduce the relationship between derivatives and physical quantities, discussing how 'dv/dx' can be expressed in terms of acceleration and velocity.
  • Further contributions reference the application of the equation in scenarios involving fluid flow between plates, highlighting the concept of shear rate.
  • Some participants suggest that the original poster may need to familiarize themselves with derivatives and their notation.

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The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations and explanations being explored. Participants are providing insights into the mathematical and physical implications of the terms in question, although no consensus has been reached on the original poster's confusion.

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There are references to specific examples and analogies that illustrate the concepts, but the original poster's understanding of derivatives and their application in this context remains uncertain.

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What does 'dv and dx' mean in f = eta A (dv/dx) in coefficient of viscosity?

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What does 'dv and dx' mean in f = eta A (dv/dx) in coefficient of viscosity?

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As I know v = velocity and x = distance. then what does 'dv' and 'dx' express here. Kindly explain.
 
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Like any derivative, it means the rate at which v varies with respect to x. Imagine running at top speed on asphalt and then you hit a muddy field that gets muddier the farther in you get. Even though you are pumping your muscles as hard as you can, the deeper you get, the lower your speed. The rate at which your speed decreases with distance is dv/dx, in this example a negative number.
 
Hi Indranil:

I am not sure I understand what is puzzling you. I will tell you what it means to me, and I hope that will be helpful.

dv/dx is the rate of change of velocity as position changes.

You can also write dv/dx = dv/dt / dx/dt.
Do you understand that? Since dx/dt = v, and dv/dt = a (acceleration) you can say that the meaning of dv/dt is the value you get when you divide the acceleration by the velocity.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
 
Here's what Wikipedia has to say about it: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viskosität (They used ##y## instead of ##x##.)
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In the experiment, it can be shown that, ideally, the force ##F## necessary to move the top plate is proportional to the area ##A##, the speed difference ##\Delta v## and antiproportional to the spacing of the plates ##\Delta y##, that is:
##F \sim A## and ##F \sim \Delta v## and ##F \sim \dfrac{1}{\Delta y}##

This gives the equation ##F = \eta A {\dfrac{\Delta v}{\Delta y}}## and as continuous, infinitesimal form ##F = \eta A {\dfrac{d v}{d y}}##.
 

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I agree with @fresh_42 . This equation is typically used to introduce Newton's law of viscosity, based on the most simple example. In this example, you have a fluid contained between 2 large parallel plates, with the lower plate (y=0) stationary and the upper plate y=h) moving at velocity V in the positive x-direction. The fluid x-velocity in the region between the plates is linear, and given by:$$v_x=V\frac{y}{h}$$. The force in the positive x-direction required to cause the fluid to shear with this velocity profile is given by Newton's law of viscosity as:
$$F=\eta A\frac{dv_x}{dy}=\eta A\frac{V}{h}$$where ##\eta## is the fluid viscosity and A is the plate area. The derivative of the x-velocity with respect to y is referred to as the "shear rate."

The example given by Buzz Bloom, rather than involving shear of the fluid, is referred to as an elongational deformation. In this case, dv/dx is called the "rate of elongation", and the tensile force involves 3 times the viscosity.
 
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Delta v\Delta X = Viscosity Gradient

Change in Velocity/Change in Depth = VELOCITY GRADIANT = Uniformly CHANGE

dv/dx = Small CHANGE IN velocity / small change in depth Non Uniform
 

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