What does it mean when a limit is finite

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The discussion centers around the concept of finite limits in mathematics, exploring definitions, implications, and examples. Participants examine what it means for a limit to be finite, including its significance in the context of real numbers and functions.

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  • Some participants suggest that a finite limit means there exists a real number L such that the absolute difference between L and a sequence of real numbers Rn decreases as n increases.
  • Another viewpoint describes finite limits in terms of specific mathematical expressions, indicating that a limit is finite if it approaches a specific number L as x approaches a certain value or infinity.
  • One participant emphasizes that a finite limit indicates the function remains bounded in a finite region and approaches a value L as x approaches a finite point.
  • There is mention of different types of limits, with some participants noting that certain limits (e.g., approaching infinity) are often categorized as "improper limits" or cases where "a limit does not exist," which can lead to confusion.
  • A later reply corrects an earlier statement about sequences, specifying that for a sequence to converge to a limit, it must get arbitrarily close and remain close beyond a certain point.

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Participants express various interpretations of what constitutes a finite limit, leading to multiple competing views. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nuances of definitions and implications of finite limits.

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Some definitions and interpretations depend on specific mathematical contexts, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the terminology used for different types of limits.

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elixer akm said:
What does it mean when a limit is finite
Hi elixer:

I am not sure I understand what kind of answer you are seeking. One possible answer for a series of real numbers Rn is that there is a real number L such that the absolute value difference Dn = |L - Rn| gets smaller and smaller as n increases. One way this is described is that for any given small positive number S, there is some corresponding number n such that Dn < S.

Hope this helps.

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elixer akm said:
What does it mean when a limit is finite

Different types of limits have different definitions.
A "finite limit" generally means one of the following types of limits:

1) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = L\ ## (e.g. ##lim_{x \rightarrow 3} x^2 = 9##)
2) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} f(x) = L##
3) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} f(x) = L ##

Where "##L##" denotes a number. (The symbols "##\infty##" and "##\infty## do not denote numbers.)

Examples of types of limits that are not finite are:
4) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = \infty\ ## (e.g ##lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{1}{x^2} = \infty##)
5) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = -\infty##.
6) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} f(x) = \infty##
7) ##\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} f(x) = -\infty##
8) ##lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} f(x) = \infty##
9) ##lim_{x \rightarrow -\infty} f(x) = -\infty##.

Since many different types of limits are defined, the terminology can get confusing. Some textbooks would say cases 4),5),6),7),8),9) are cases where "a limit does not exist". Nevertheless, those types of limits are useful in discussing problems, so most textbooks use some terminology for them. Some books call those cases "improper limits".
 
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elixer akm said:
What does it mean when a limit is finite

Hi, at first this tell you that the limit exists, second that is not infinity (or in other terms ''uncontrolled''). In this case when you are in a very small neighborhood of your point the function remains bounded in a finite region and tends to a value ##L## (positive, negative or ##0##), this is true every time you are much near to the point so that we say that ##f## tends to a value ##L## when ##x## tends to a finite point ##x_{0}##. The rigorous definition of a finite limit can be founded in a math book of high school and I hope to have clarified the general idea ...
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Buzz Bloom said:
Hi elixer:

I am not sure I understand what kind of answer you are seeking. One possible answer for a series of real numbers Rn is that there is a real number L such that the absolute value difference Dn = |L - Rn| gets smaller and smaller as n increases. One way this is described is that for any given small positive number S, there is some corresponding number n such that Dn < S.
Should say "natural number n such that Di < S for all i > n". So the sequence of numbers gets arbitrarily close to the limit number and stays close from then on.
 
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