What Does Not Local in Space Mean in Relativistic Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers on the concept of locality in the context of relativistic quantum mechanics, specifically examining the implications of using a Hamiltonian expressed as the square root of the sum of momentum and mass terms. Participants explore the meaning of "not local in space" and the consequences of higher derivatives in equations of motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that using the Hamiltonian as sqrt(p²c² + m²c⁴ leads to higher order derivatives in space, which may imply non-locality.
  • Another participant argues that sqrt(p²c² + m²c⁴ is a valid 1-particle Hamiltonian, questioning the validity of the non-locality argument.
  • A later reply discusses the importance of locality in quantum mechanics, referencing causality and the interaction of objects within light cones, and suggests looking into Bell's Inequalities for further understanding.
  • It is noted that local operators in quantum mechanics are polynomials of position and momentum acting at the same point, while the square root operator introduces non-locality.
  • Concerns are raised about the stability of solutions in higher derivative equations, which may lead to instabilities and negative norm states, complicating the framework of quantum mechanics.
  • Another perspective is presented that expanding in (mc)²/p² leads to non-local operators in position space, which could result in causality issues for wavefunctions.
  • Participants acknowledge that while higher derivative theories may have applications, they present significant challenges in the context of the relativistic Schrödinger equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the Hamiltonian approach and the implications of non-locality, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of defining locality in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to higher derivatives and their mathematical implications, without reaching a consensus on the interpretations presented.

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One approach to get a relativistic QM might be to take hamiltonian as sqrt(p2c2 +m2c4). But apparently this does not work because expanding H in inverse powers of c2 will lead to higher order derivative in space. Apparently, one reason this is bad is because higher derivatives mean that the equation is not local in space.

My question: what does "not local in space" mean? Why does higher derivatives of x make it not local in space?
 
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asub said:
One approach to get a relativistic QM might be to take hamiltonian as sqrt(p2c2 +m2c4). But apparently this does not work because expanding H in inverse powers of c2 will lead to higher order derivative in space. Apparently, one reason this is bad is because higher derivatives mean that the equation is not local in space.

I've never understood this argument. I think that sqrt(p2c2 +m2c4) is a perfect 1-particle Hamiltonian.

Eugene.
 
asub said:
One approach to get a relativistic QM might be to take hamiltonian as sqrt(p2c2 +m2c4). But apparently this does not work because expanding H in inverse powers of c2 will lead to higher order derivative in space. Apparently, one reason this is bad is because higher derivatives mean that the equation is not local in space.

My question: what does "not local in space" mean? Why does higher derivatives of x make it not local in space?

I can offer some off-hand remarks, but you should check the details of what I say. First, to quickly respond to your question about "not local in space": ultimately, interactions between objects should satisfy causality...objects not within each others light cones should not interact, even in quantum mechanics where "spooky action at a distance" occurs. Look up Bell's Inequalities for a critical look at locality in quantum mechanics. In quantum field theory, the idea of local interactions comes under the guise of the "cluster decomposition principle" (Weinberg mentions it in this talk printed here http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9702027). To get wavefunctions and interaction amplitudes that satisfy locality, we write our Hamiltonians and Lagrangians using "local operators", which we get to now.

To make it explicit, in quantum mechanics the operator equation we're looking at is
[itex]\sqrt{\partial^{2}/\partial x^{\mu}\partial x_{\mu}+\cdots}\Psi=E\Psi[/itex]
where [itex]x_{\mu}[/itex] are spacetime coordinates. In mathematics, a local operator is one that consists of polynomials of x and p(x) acting at the same point x in spacetime (as position space operators acting on wavefunctions these are x and d/dx); the square root in our operator makes it non-local, and there is a whole branch of mathematics that talks about the "spectra" of operators (solutions to differential equations e.g.).
But what does this mean for us? As you mentioned, we can expand our operator so that it is a polynomial (though an infinite series), but there are two ways of doing this. Expanding in powers of [itex]p^{2}/(mc)^{2}[/itex] leads to an infinite series of higher and higher powers of p (and therefore derivatives in position space). We could truncate this series if [itex]p<<mc[/itex], which amounts to a non-relativistic limit reproducing the NR Schrödinger eqn with a constant potential term. But we are interested in the relativistic arena so that the full expansion must be kept. The problem is, higher derivative equations (above 2nd order) have solutions that generally have instabilities (see mathematics literature on this subject), and stability of solutions is one of the requirements in quantum mechanics (see the boundedness, or square-integrability, issue in its axioms). Related to this is the existence of negative norm states (violating the unitarity axiom), which will necessarily be involved in transititions (interaction amplitudes); the presence of these states can be seen as "negative mass poles" in the propagators used to calculate scattering amplitudes. Furthermore, in quantum field theory, higher derivative terms will appear in the Lagrangian density for the fields, and are necessarily accompanied by larger and larger negative mass-dimension coupling "constants", which is troublesome for renormalizability. None of this is to say that higher derivative theories are un-useful, or don't appear in nature, or that no sense can be made of them. But for the relativistic S.E., these issues are too sophisticated.
If you instead made an expansion in [itex](mc)^{2}/p^{2}[/itex], we can truncate to the first two terms in the relativistic limit, but the second one involves 1/p, which in position space is [itex](\partial/\partial x)^{-1}[/itex]; this is a non-local operator in position space (so this is the expansion that leads to manifestly non-local terms). Wavefunctions, as solutions of this equation, would have causality problems. Non-locally-interacting theories also show up in physics, but again, these are more sophisticated situations than the relativistic S.E.
 

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