What does one calorie per cubic mile mean to you?

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The discussion explores the concept of energy density, specifically relating to one calorie per cubic mile and its implications in astrophysics and habitability of the universe. Participants examine the relationship between energy densities in different contexts, including sunlight and the overall energy density of the universe.

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  • One participant notes that one calorie per cubic mile is approximately equivalent to one joule per cubic kilometer, linking this to the measured density of the universe at 0.85 joule per cubic kilometer.
  • Another participant questions the energy density of sunlight at a given distance from the sun, suggesting there are around 5000 calories of sunlight per cubic mile, which is significantly higher than the overall energy density of the universe.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the figure of 5000 calories per cubic mile and connects it to the concept of habitability in the universe, contrasting it with the lower energy density of the universe.
  • One participant introduces the idea that the darkness of the night sky can be explained by the insufficient energy density in space.
  • A lighter, humorous remark is made about the personal implications of calorie consumption and exercise, diverging from the technical discussion.

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Participants present multiple viewpoints regarding energy densities, with some agreeing on the numerical relationships while others introduce different contexts and implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the significance and interpretation of these energy densities.

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Participants express varying assumptions about the relevance of energy densities in different contexts, such as habitability and the observable universe. There are also indications of potential errors in calculations or statements, but these are not resolved.

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One calorie per cubic mile is almost exactly the same as one joule per cubic kilometer.

Because a calorie is 4.185 joules and a cubic mile is 4.166 cubic km.

And the density of the universe has finally been measured to the general satisfaction of astronomers, at 0.85 joule per cubic kilometer.
This is what makes it flat, and matches the observed acceleration of expansion and the observed bumpiness of the CMB.

As a rough size 0.85 is about one. And so roughly speaking the density of the universe is ONE joule per cubic km.

And in old-timey units (for people who can think in calories and miles) that is about one calorie per cubic mile. Actually 0.85 but about.

Tonight there will no doubt be some people on this planet who look up at the dark and think "hmmm, on average there is about a calorie in a cubic mile of that"
 
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the energy density of sunlight at this distance

at this distance from the sun and at anyone instant how many joules of sunlight does a cubic kilometer of space contain?

or how many calories of sunlight are in a cubic mile since it is the same number

and does it matter, should we care? well it is what makes this zone that the Earth orbits in the "habitable zone"
exobiologists are not averse to talking about the "habitable zone" around each star which in effect is the zone where space
has this energy density of light

I think there are around 5000 calories of sunlight per cubic mile
in space at this distance----or joules per cubic km

Order of magnitude, it is around 5000 times the overall energy density of the universe.

The present energy density 0.85 joule/km^3 overall is one of the things that makes the universe hospitable to life----flat, given its present expansion rate etc---not about to collapse on itself. So two kinds of habitability both of which can be expressed as energy densities---one being a few thousand times the other.

no time to proofread, hope no gross errors
 


Originally posted by marcus
I think there are around 5000 calories of sunlight per cubic mile
in space at this distance----or joules per cubic km

Order of magnitude, it is around 5000 times the overall energy density of the universe.

You've come across another way of explaining why the sky is dark at night: there's just not enough energy out there (per unit volume one must be careful to note) to make it bright.
 
Complete vacuum...:wink:
 
What does one calorie per cubic mile mean to you?
It means a lot more more exercise then I feel like doing if I'm going to 'lose' that sandwich I had for lunch today.
 

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