What Does the Area Under the Molecular Speed Distribution Curve Represent?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the area under the molecular speed distribution curve in the context of gas laws and kinetic theory. Participants explore what this area signifies, particularly in relation to root mean square speed and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the area under the curve represents average kinetic energy, expressing confusion about this interpretation.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the area represents the number of molecules present, implying a lack of textbook knowledge.
  • A different participant seeks clarification on why the area would represent the number of molecules.
  • There is a reference to the Boltzmann distribution of molecular speeds, with an explanation that the y-axis indicates the number of molecules within a specific speed range.
  • Participants discuss the concept of a molecular distribution function and its relation to the mean number of molecules at various speeds.
  • It is noted that the total area under the Boltzmann curve corresponds to the total number of molecules in a given system.
  • The area between two specific speeds is described as representing the total number of molecules with speeds within that range.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the area under the curve, with some suggesting it indicates the number of molecules while others explore its relation to kinetic energy and molecular distribution functions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive meaning of the area.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of terms like "Boltzmann distribution" and "molecular distribution function" may not be fully articulated, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of the area under the curve.

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hi guys i gota question in chemistrygas laws , i thought about it and am still confused ~~~~~~~~~~~ what does the area under a number of molecules against speed of gas represent? it is to do with root mean square speed ... i thought that it might be the average kinetic energey but it seems unlikely to be so ... just for reference "[PLAIN Gases/Kinetic/Gases08.htm"][URL]http://wine1.sb.fsu.edu/.../[/URL] Gases/Kinetic/Gases08.htm[/URL]
 
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lol...it means the no. of molecules present...bad boy...neva read textbook!
 
number of molecules? why?
 
nithin said:
hi guys i gota question in chemistrygas laws , i thought about it and am still confused ~~~~~~~~~~~ what does the area under a number of molecules against speed of gas represent? it is to do with root mean square speed ... i thought that it might be the average kinetic energey but it seems unlikely to be so ... just for reference "[PLAIN Gases/Kinetic/Gases08.htm"][URL]http://wine1.sb.fsu.edu/.../[/URL] Gases/Kinetic/Gases08.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]1. That URL is incomplete - please fix it.

2. Are you referring to the Boltzmann distribution of molecular speeds? The y-axis represents the number of molecules whose speeds lie within some v and v+dv.

3. For any collection of particles (eg:molecules), you can define what is known as a molecular distribution function, f(r,v,t) which is the mean number of molecules whose center of mass at time t is found between r and r+dr and whose velocities lie between v and v+dv. The y-axis of the Boltzmann curve is like the time averaged distribution independent of position, [itex]n(v) = (1/T) \int_0^T dt \int_{box} d^3r f(r,v,t) [/itex]

4. The mean square velocity is simply [itex] (1/T) \int dt \int d^3r \int d^3v f(r,v,t) v^2 [/itex]. The RMS velocity is the square root of this number.

5. The total area under the Boltzmann curve [itex] (1/T) \int dt \int d^3r \int d^2v f(r,v,t) [/itex] is the number of molecules that can be found at any position, possessing any velocity, ie: the total number of molecules in the box.

6. The area under the curve between two speeds v1 and v2 represents the total number of molecules having speeds between v1 and v2.
 
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