What Does the Dot Mean in a Function Like f(x,·,·)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the notation f(x,·,·) in mathematical functions, particularly focusing on its implications for functions of multiple variables. Participants explore its usage, significance, and potential applications in mathematical logic and general theorem proving.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that f(x,·,·) indicates a function of three variables where the dependence on x is of particular interest.
  • Others propose that substituting arbitrary values for the other arguments in f(x,·,·) would not affect the interpretation, although this may not be a practical example.
  • A participant highlights that the notation is valuable when the specific nature of the "dot" is irrelevant, allowing for generalization in mathematical logic.
  • There is mention of using the notation to represent any possible values of the first argument in a function, which could be useful in proving general theorems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the notation, with no consensus on a definitive meaning or application. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the utility and implications of using such notation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the informal nature of examples provided and the lack of formal definitions or established conventions regarding the notation f(x,·,·).

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In the example you give f(x,.,.), the dependence on x is of interest, keeping in mind that f is a function of 3 variables.
 
mathman said:
In the example you give f(x,.,.), the dependence on x is of interest, keeping in mind that f is a function of 3 variables.

So you could substitute arbitrary values for the other arguments with no effect?

Would this be proper (albeit useless) example of usage?
Let function f map R x R to R be defined as f(x,·) = x + 4.

I've always been used to seeing,
Let y be in R. Let function f map R x R to R be defined as f(x,y) = x + 4.
 
The real value of the notation is when you don't care at all what sort of object the "dot" represents.

In elementary algebra, you use variables like "x" to mean "any object of some type" - for example "any real number".

If you want to prove a general theorem in mathematical logic about "all possible functions with 3 arguments, regardless of what the functions actually do or what types of arguments they have", then you need notations to represent ideas like "a general example of such a function", or "any possible values of the first argument of such a function".

That is one use for notations like f(.,.,.) and the "x" part of f(x,.,.).
 

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