What Does the Homology Group Tell Us About a Manifold?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation and calculation of homology groups in algebraic topology, specifically focusing on the zeroth homology group and its implications for connected components of manifolds. Participants explore examples, definitions, and interpretations related to homology groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the zeroth homology group H_0(X; G) is generated by the number of path-connected components, leading to the conclusion that it is isomorphic to kG, where k is the number of such components.
  • Another participant questions the calculation of the homology group for a circle (S1) with two points, proposing a specific representation involving generators along the upper and lower half-planes.
  • There is a clarification that two points in the same connected component are homologous if they can be connected by a path, which leads to the conclusion that the zeroth homology group is freely generated by the homology class of a point from each connected component.
  • A participant raises a question about interpreting higher homology groups, specifically H1(X; Z), and its implications for the manifold's properties, such as orientability and connectedness.

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Participants express various interpretations of homology groups and their implications, with some agreement on the definitions but differing views on specific calculations and interpretations, particularly regarding higher homology groups. The discussion remains unresolved on certain points.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and calculations presented in Fulton's book, indicating potential limitations in their understanding or the clarity of the material.

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Hello,

I am reading the book on algebraic topology by Fulton and the geometric intusion that is supposed to be given for homological group is the number of connected components.

I wanted to understand an example.

For a circle ( S1) which has got 2 points say A at ( 1, 0) and another point B at ( - 1, 0) is the calculation of the Homology group in the following way

\stackrel{ a + b }{a -b } where a and b are the two generators along the upper half plane and the lower half plane. Then is the result 2a or 2b ie 2*Z.

Thx
 
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Are you interested in H_o(X,G) , the 0-th homological group.?. In that case, the homology
group (working with coefficients from an Abelian group G) is given by kG, where k is the
number of path-connected components, i.e

Ho(X;G)=G(+)G(+)...(+)G , k copies.

The issues as a I see it, is that , in each path-component, a single point generates
the full Ho(X;G), since the only possible boundaries are paths, and there is, by assumption,
a path between any two points.


Expanding: consider a path-connected component X1 , and let x1 be a point
in X1. Then x1 itself generates all the 0-th homology: let x1' =/ x1 in x1. Then there
is a path p(t) between x1 and x1' in X1 .
This means that either x1-x1' or x1'-x1 is the boundary of p(t) (basically, the paths
are the only 1-dimensional objects that are/can be bounded by the points in H_o(X1,G)
.
You can easily see that there can be no other homology classes in X1; given any other
point x1'' in X1, x1-x1'' or x1''-x1 are a boundary of this path. This means that every
point in X1 is homologous to x1.

Same goes for any connected component.

HTH.
 
Sumanta said:
Hello,

I am reading the book on algebraic topology by Fulton and the geometric intusion that is supposed to be given for homological group is the number of connected components.

I wanted to understand an example.

For a circle ( S1) which has got 2 points say A at ( 1, 0) and another point B at ( - 1, 0) is the calculation of the Homology group in the following way

\stackrel{ a + b }{a -b } where a and b are the two generators along the upper half plane and the lower half plane. Then is the result 2a or 2b ie 2*Z.

Thx

I also don't know how Fulton's book lays out the homology groups.
 
Just from the definitions,

H_0(X;\mathbb{Z})

is defined as the closed 0-chains (every 0-chain is closed) modulo the boundaries (i.e. beginning and end points of maps of the interval into X). In our case (where I don't draw a distinction between connected and path-connected), two points a and b lie in the same connected component if and only they can be connected by a path

\gamma: [0,1] \rightarrow X

Hence a and b are homologous if and only if

b-a = \partial (\gamma).

It follows therefore that the zeroth homology group is freely generated by the homology class of a point selected from each connected component.
 


Just Curious:

It is straightforward to interpret the meaning of either (X an n-manifold, Z=integers.):

H0(X,Z)=kG , or Hn(X,Z)=Z (assume for now G has no torsion

o.wise use Universal Coeff. Thm.) .

First tells us that X has k path components, and last tells us that X is orientable.

How would we interpret , tho, H1(X;Z) =Z (or something else;

obviously, n>1 here.).?. I guess , Z being Abelian, we can also conclude (Hurewicz)

that Pin=Z too.

Otherwise , AFAIK, Hn measures "k-connectedness" . Anyone have

any comments on this.?
 

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