What does the `|' represent in an infinite product notation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the notation used in infinite product expressions, specifically the meaning of the `|' symbol in the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and mathematical notation. Participants explore its implications in both mathematical and physical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of the `|' in the expression ∏n | k n0 > 0, noting that it is not standard to use `|' in place of a comma for indexing.
  • Another participant suggests that the `|' represents a constitution of a ket, implying a connection to quantum mechanics.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that in mathematics, `n | k` signifies that there exists a constant `c` such that `k = c·n`, suggesting a product over divisors of `k`.
  • One participant proposes that the `|' can be interpreted as "such that" or "where," indicating a condition for the infinite product, specifically that `kn0` is greater than zero.
  • A later reply confirms the interpretation of `|' as indicating a condition, referencing a specific text (Peskin and Schroeder) for clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the `|' notation, with no consensus reached on its meaning. Multiple competing views remain regarding its significance in both mathematical and physical contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some interpretations depend on specific contexts, such as quantum mechanics or mathematical notation, and the discussion does not resolve the ambiguity surrounding the use of `|'.

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Hi,
In my QFT course, the professor writes an infinite product like this:

n | k n0 > 0 ∫...

My question is, what does the `|' in the subscript "n | k" representing? When I see `|', I think logical OR - obviously that is not it. Normally, if it's a sum over two indices, commas separate the indices - not sure if `|' in place of a comma is standard notation or not.

Any ideas?Thanks,
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It's a constitution of a ket
 
In math when you write ## n|k ## it means that exist ## c ## such that ## k=c\cdot n ##, in other words is the product over all divisors of ##k## ..., I don't know otherwise ...
 
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Thinking back to my complex analysis course, I think the bar `|' represents "such that", or "where". So,

n | kn0>0

can be read as "an infinite product over n, where kn0 is greater than zero". This also became a little more clear once I picked up Peskin and Schroeder, and looked at Ch9.2.
 
Ssnow said:
In math when you write ## n|k ## it means that exist ## c ## such that ## k=c\cdot n ##, in other words is the product over all divisors of ##k## ..., I don't know otherwise ...

Yes, that's it. See P&S, p.285-286: k is defined as a constant times n. This makes sense.Thanks,
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