What Does the Spin-0 State Mean for Photons?

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The discussion revolves around the physical interpretation of the spin-0 state in relation to photons, which are understood to have spin-1. Participants explore the implications of this spin classification and its connection to helicity, as well as the role of gauge choice in determining physical states.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question what the physical significance of the spin-0 state is for photons, given that photons are classified as spin-1 particles with three theoretical spin states (1, 0, -1).
  • Others argue that the spin-0 case can be eliminated through a choice of gauge, suggesting it is not considered a physical state.
  • A later reply acknowledges the distinction between massive and massless spin-1 particles, indicating a potential area of confusion regarding the spin states.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the physical relevance of the spin-0 state, with some asserting it is non-physical while others seek clarification on its implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the spin-0 state.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference gauge choice as a factor in the discussion, indicating that assumptions about gauge invariance may influence the understanding of spin states. The distinction between massive and massless particles is also noted but not fully explored.

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Sorry if it is a silly question: Photons have spin-1 and therefore they have theoretically three possible spin states (1,0,-1), For the ±1 case I can see the relation to the ±helicity, but what corresponds physically to the 0 state case?
 
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TrickyDicky said:
Sorry if it is a silly question: Photons have spin-1 and therefore they have theoretically three possible spin states (1,0,-1), For the ±1 case I can see the relation to the ±helicity, but what corresponds physically to the 0 state case?

The spin-0 case can be eliminated through a choice of gauge. So it's not considered physical.
 
This issue is discussed here:
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic473482.files/08-gaugeinvariance.pdf (in Section 3.3)
 
stevendaryl said:
The spin-0 case can be eliminated through a choice of gauge. So it's not considered physical.

stevendaryl said:
This issue is discussed here:
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic473482.files/08-gaugeinvariance.pdf (in Section 3.3)

Ah, ok, thanks. I was neglecting the difference between massive and massless for spin-1 particles.
 

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