What Does the Wave Function Reveal About k and ω?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the wave function represented by the equation $$u(x,t)=A \cos{(kx-\omega t)}$$, focusing on the meanings of the parameters wavenumber ($k$) and circular frequency ($\omega$). Participants explore the relationships between these parameters, wavelength, period, and the graphical representation of the wave function over time and space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that $\frac{2 \pi}{k}$ represents the wavelength, denoted by $\lambda$.
  • Others mention that $\omega$ relates to the period of the wave, with the relationship $\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T}$, where $T$ is the period.
  • There is a suggestion that the velocity of the wave can be expressed as $v = \frac{\lambda}{T}$.
  • Participants discuss that $\omega$ counts the cycles of the wave function over a time interval of $2\pi$, leading to the conclusion that $\frac{2 \pi}{\omega}$ is the period.
  • There is a question about whether the period can be visualized in the existing graph or if a new graph is needed, with a clarification that a different graph would be required to show $u(x,t)$ versus $t$ at a fixed $x$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of wavelength and period, but there is a lack of consensus on the graphical representation and whether the existing graph suffices for the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the graphical representation of the wave function over time versus space, indicating a need for clarification on how to visualize these relationships.

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Hello! (Wave)

A function of the form

$$u(x,t)=A \cos{(kx-\omega t)}, \text{ where } k>0, \omega>0, A>0$$

is called wave function. If in addition $u(x,t)$ is the solution of a differential equation with partial derivatives we are talking about a solution of the differential equation in the form of a wave function.
$k$ is called wavenumber and $\omega$ is called circular frequency.

$k$ counts the cycles that the wavefunction makes at the space interval of length $2 \pi$-in respect to $x$.View attachment 4140What does $\frac{2 \pi}{k}$ represent? What does it count? :confused:
 

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evinda said:
What does $\frac{2 \pi}{k}$ represent? What does it count? :confused:

Hey! (Wink)

$\frac{2 \pi}{k}$ is the wave length, usually represented by the symbol $\lambda$. (Wasntme)

It is similar to the period $T$ of a wave, for which we have $\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T}$.
You may also run into the frequency $f$ of the wave, which is $f = \frac{1}{T}$.

The velocity $v$ (or sometimes $c$) of a wave is its wave length $\lambda$ divided by its period $T$. (Nerd)
 
I like Serena said:
Hey! (Wink)

$\frac{2 \pi}{k}$ is the wave length, usually represented by the symbol $\lambda$. (Wasntme)

It is similar to the period $T$ of a wave, for which we have $\omega = \frac{2\pi}{T}$.
You may also run into the frequency $f$ of the wave, which is $f = \frac{1}{T}$.

The velocity $v$ (or sometimes $c$) of a wave is its wave length $\lambda$ divided by its period $T$. (Nerd)

Then there is the following definition:

$\omega$ counts the cycles that the wave function makes in the time interval $2 \pi$- in respect to $t$.

So $\frac{2 \pi}{\omega}$ is equal to the period, right?
Can we see it at the above graph? Or would we have to draw an other one? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
Then there is the following definition:

$\omega$ counts the cycles that the wave function makes in the time interval $2 \pi$- in respect to $t$.

So $\frac{2 \pi}{\omega}$ is equal to the period, right?
Can we see it at the above graph? Or would we have to draw an other one? (Thinking)

Yep. That's the period.

And we would need another graph. (Wasntme)

The graph you have is of $u(x,t)$ versus $x$, where $t$ has some fixed value.
You're talking about a graph of $u(x,t)$ versus $t$, with a fixed $x$ value. (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. That's the period.

And we would need another graph. (Wasntme)

The graph you have is of $u(x,t)$ versus $x$, where $t$ has some fixed value.
You're talking about a graph of $u(x,t)$ versus $t$, with a fixed $x$ value. (Thinking)

Ah, I see... So it will be exactly the same graph with the only difference that the perpendicular axis will represent $t$ instead of $x$. Right? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
Ah, I see... So it will be exactly the same graph with the only difference that the perpendicular axis will represent $t$ instead of $x$. Right? (Thinking)

Yep. (Nod)
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. (Nod)

Great! Thanks a lot! (Angel)
 

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