What Does Up to Isomorphism Really Mean?

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The discussion focuses on classifying abelian groups of order 12 up to isomorphism, specifically addressing the inclusion of \(\mathbb{Z}_{12}\) in the classification. Participants confirm that the groups \(\mathbb{Z}_{12}\), \(\mathbb{Z}_{3} \times \mathbb{Z}_{4}\), and \(\mathbb{Z}_{2} \times \mathbb{Z}_{2} \times \mathbb{Z}_{3}\) are all isomorphic to each other. Additionally, the discussion highlights the general principle that if gcd(a,b)=1, then \(\mathbb{Z}_{ab} \cong \mathbb{Z}_a \times \mathbb{Z}_b\), emphasizing the necessity of this condition for establishing isomorphisms. The construction of an isomorphism \(\psi\) is also detailed, illustrating the relationship between these groups.

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  • Understanding of group theory concepts, particularly abelian groups.
  • Familiarity with isomorphism and the notation \(\mathbb{Z}_n\).
  • Knowledge of the Chinese Remainder Theorem (CRT).
  • Basic skills in modular arithmetic.
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  • Study the classification of finite abelian groups using the Fundamental Theorem of Finite Abelian Groups.
  • Learn about the Chinese Remainder Theorem and its applications in group theory.
  • Explore examples of isomorphic groups beyond order 12.
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what does it really mean?

for instance if asked to list all abelian grps of order 12 up to iso, then do we include Z12 or not?
 
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When you are asked to classify all groups of order 12 up to isomorphism, this means two things:
  • You need to create a list of groups such that every group of order 12 is isomorphic to one of these groups.
  • None of you the groups you listed are isomorphic to each other.
 
Specifically: yes, you need to include \mathbb{Z}_{12} or some group isomorphic to it. There are more groups of order 12 though...
 
Yes thanks I get it now.

Hence for ABELIAN groups of order 12 we have \mathbb{Z}_{12} ≈ \mathbb{Z}_{3} X \mathbb{Z}_{4}, and \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{3}

what would be \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{6} isomorphic to?
 
Bachelier said:
Yes thanks I get it now.

Hence for ABELIAN groups of order 12 we have \mathbb{Z}_{12} ≈ \mathbb{Z}_{3} X \mathbb{Z}_{4}, and \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{3}

what would be \mathbb{Z}_{2} X \mathbb{Z}_{6} isomorphic to?

In general: if gcd(a,b)=1, then \mathbb{Z}_{ab}\cong \mathbb{Z}_a\times \mathbb{Z}_b (try to prove this!).

So we would have \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_6\cong \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_3.
 
micromass said:
In general: if gcd(a,b)=1, then \mathbb{Z}_{ab}\cong \mathbb{Z}_a\times \mathbb{Z}_b (try to prove this!).

So we would have \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_6\cong \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_2\times \mathbb{Z}_3.

we can construct an isomorphism ψ: from \mathbb{Z}_{ab} to \mathbb{Z}_a\times \mathbb{Z}_b

such that ψ(x)= (x mod a, x mod b), it is a homomorphism, a surjection(for any y in the range, there exists an x congruent to z(mod ab) "the solution to the congruence system, and finally ψ is an injection because domain and codomain are finite sets with equal cardinality or order .
 
Yes, but where did you use that gcd(a,b)=1?? You do need this!
 
my computer just died.
we used the fact that a and b are coprime to show that the system of equations has a solution by CRT.
 
Bachelier said:
my computer just died.
we used the fact that a and b are coprime to show that the system of equations has a solution by CRT.

That seems alright! :smile:
 

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