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The discussion revolves around the requirements for admission to top-tier universities, particularly MIT, focusing on GPA, SAT/ACT scores, and other factors such as extracurricular activities, letters of recommendation, and personal essays. Participants explore the complexities of the admissions process and the importance of presenting a unique profile beyond academic metrics.

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  • Some participants suggest that high grades and test scores are necessary but not sufficient for admission to MIT and similar institutions.
  • Others argue that exceptional achievements, such as winning prestigious competitions or holding leadership positions, may enhance an application but do not guarantee acceptance.
  • It is noted that MIT has rejected applicants with perfect GPAs and SAT scores, indicating that the admissions process considers a broader range of qualities.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of uniqueness in an applicant's profile, including interviews and personal narratives.
  • Concerns are raised about the perceived value of attending MIT, with some asserting that success is not solely dependent on the institution attended.
  • A participant questions the definition of "many" in relation to the number of individuals who may struggle after obtaining advanced degrees from MIT, highlighting the variability in experiences.
  • Links to official MIT admissions resources are provided to support claims about the admissions process and statistics.

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Participants express a range of views on the significance of GPA and test scores in the admissions process, with no consensus on the exact requirements or guarantees of success from attending MIT. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the weight of various factors in admissions decisions.

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Limitations include varying definitions of success, the subjective nature of uniqueness in applications, and the lack of specific data on the outcomes for graduates from MIT.

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What does your GPA need to be? What about SAT/ACT and other activities? (To get accepted)
 
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Nothing you do outside of winning Intel Science or some olympiad or being valedictorian at Phillips Exeter is going to approximately guarantee being admitted to MIT or any top 7 school. You could do well enough to approximately guarantee getting into one of top 7 but not all or a specific one.
 


MIT rejects students with 4.0 GPAs or perfect SATs. Grades and test scores are important, but they are not everything. Letters, essays, interview, character and activities are all important.
 


MIT (or any other top-ranked school) isn't looking for high grades or test scores. They just *expect* these. They are looking for something that makes you stand out from the crowd.
 


Having low test scores and GPA will definitely keep you out of MIT, but having perfect SATs and GPA will not get you accepted by themselves.

As mentioned, MIT rejects applicants with perfect GPA's and SATs. In order to get into MIT for undergrad you will need to present yourself as not just a good student but also extraordinary in other respects. This is where your interview and letters and activities come into play. You have to make yourself seem unique.

It'll be tough. Nothing is going to garantee your acceptance into a school like MIT. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try though! Just don't be too disappointed if you don't get in. You do not need to go to a school like MIT to have a good career in any field.
 


MIT is NOT the be all end all of success or validation of one's worth.

Keep your mind and possibilities open
 


G01 said:
You do not need to go to a school like MIT to have a good career in any field.

I do not know how is MIT for grad students but I know for undergrad and postdocs does no guarantee you will have a successful career.

I know many people that after their PhD or postdoc at MIT are unemployed and moreover not having papers because of poor equipment in the lab they were not able to get the experiments done.
Their prof was not interested because he was tenure prof.
 


Oxygenne said:
I know many people that after their PhD or postdoc at MIT are unemployed and moreover not having papers because of poor equipment in the lab they were not able to get the experiments done.

Just out of curiosity, how would you define "many"? 10? 25? 100?
 
I'd like to link to this http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/the_selection_process_application_reading_committee_and_decisions/its_more_than_a_job.shtml made by an MIT admissions official staff member. In short, there's no area that's considered the minimum or maximum for a school like MIT (but if you want some numbers, look http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/apply/admissions_statistics/index.shtml). If you want to get into MIT or any elite school, just do your best but don't fret if you get rejected.
 
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