What exactly is meant by a phase in Quantum Mechanics?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of "phase" in quantum mechanics, exploring its meaning, representation, and implications in the context of wave behavior and oscillations. Participants seek clarification on how phase relates to paths and the cyclical nature of waves.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the concept of phase, suggesting it relates to a number associated with possible paths and asking how to determine the position in the cycle of a wave.
  • Another participant states that "phase" can be understood as an angle, relating oscillations to rotations around a circle.
  • A different participant mentions that phase relationships can be determined through theoretical methods like Fourier transforms and experimental techniques such as interferometry.
  • One participant provides an analogy using moon phases to explain that a phase represents a specific part of a periodic behavior, emphasizing the arbitrary nature of the starting point in defining phases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a singular definition of phase, with multiple interpretations and explanations presented. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and approaches to the concept.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' explanations rely on analogies and theoretical frameworks that may not fully capture the complexities of phase in quantum mechanics. The discussion does not resolve the nuances of how phase is applied in different contexts.

ASGTech
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
I understand this is probably a very stupid question to some of the people on here, but none the less i would still like to know. It hasn't been explained very well to me.
I have a vague understanding that it is a number that you collect for each possible path? Please correct/elaborate on this if possible?
I was also told the phase represents the position in the cycle of a wave, whether it is at a crest or trough or some precise position in between. How do find the position it represents and how can you label an infinite number of paths with phases? How do you find the position in the cycle of a wave?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Phase relationships are determined theoretically by taking the Fourier transform of the fields or waves, and experimentally using interferometers.

This might be interesting:

Book review: Neutron Interferometry: Lessons in Experimental Quantum Mechanics
http://www.trincoll.edu/~silverma/reviews_commentary/neutron_interferometry.html
 
A phase of anything is one part of a periodic behavior. Take the moon phases as an example, it goes full - half - crescent - half - full , etc in a periodic manner, and a particular part of that cycle, say for example the full moon is a phase of the whole cycle. And roughly a month later the same phase happens again. The same is true for any periodic behavior, including waves, that go between crests and troughs. We then characterize a full cycle as a number, like 360 degrees or 2*pi radians, which gives us more accuracy in determining where in the cycle we are. The starting point is arbitrary, and we could for example choose a crest in a wave to correspond to 0 degrees, and from that it would follow that the trough would be at 180 degrees.

Waves are often encoutered in physics, especially in quantum physics, coming from the wave nature of objects, and when we talk about a phase angle here, we talk about exactly the same thing as I mentioned above: a particular part of a periodic behavior compared to a chosen starting/reference point.

I hope that somewhat simple/fundamental explanation helped.
 
Thank you all for your Input ! I appreciate it.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 48 ·
2
Replies
48
Views
4K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K