What Forms on the Cathode During Electrolysis of Iron(II) Sulphate?

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The discussion revolves around the electrolysis of a 1 M solution of Iron(II) sulfate using inert electrodes, specifically focusing on what forms at the cathode during the process. Participants explore the reduction potentials of iron and water, and the conditions affecting the formation of products at the cathode.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that iron(II) ions should be reduced at the cathode to form solid iron due to their more positive reduction potential compared to water.
  • Another participant asserts that hydrogen gas will actually form at the cathode, challenging the initial claim.
  • There is a discussion about the reduction potential of water to hydrogen being -0.83 V, which is referenced as a critical factor in determining the product at the cathode.
  • One participant emphasizes that the concentration of hydrogen ions is negligible in the solution, suggesting that this can be ignored in the analysis.
  • Another participant counters this by stating that all species, including hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions, must be considered, and mentions the use of the Nernst equation for a more accurate prediction.
  • There is a suggestion that comparing the reduction potentials of iron and hydrogen (0 V) may suffice for a basic understanding of the situation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether iron or hydrogen will form at the cathode, indicating a lack of consensus. Some argue for the reduction of iron(II) ions, while others support the formation of hydrogen gas, leading to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the initial concentrations of ions and the standard state conditions for the reduction potentials, highlighting the complexity of the predictions involved in this electrolysis scenario.

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Homework Statement



I am given a 1 M solution of Iron(II)sulphate(aq) and it is being electrolyzed using inert electrodes . What will form on the cathode ?

Homework Equations



Reduction potentials of : Fe =-0.44V
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of water to from hydrogen : -0.83V

The Attempt at a Solution


Since iron(II) ion has a more POSITIVE value it is easily reduced at the cathode to form Iron (solid).

Unfortunately this answer is wrong .
The correct answer is Hydrogen will be formed on the cathode ... Why ?
 
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hms.tech said:
of water to from hydrogen : -0.83V

Please elaborate.

Generally speaking hydrogen gets reduced at 0 V by definition, doesn't it?
 
Borek said:
Please elaborate.

Generally speaking hydrogen gets reduced at 0 V by definition, doesn't it?

It does indeed but that is something different. In this particular example we have :

Fe(II) ions , water molecules, extremely low number of Hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions, Sulphate ions .

Since the concentration of Hydrogen ions is almost negligible (as is the case in any aqueous solution) it should be OK to ignore them . So to form hydrogen gas at the cathode the reaction that occurs (in reality) is :

2 water molecules + 2 electrons → one molecule of hydrogen gas + 2 hydroxide ions with a standard redox potential of -0.83V
 
hms.tech said:
Since the concentration of Hydrogen ions is almost negligible (as is the case in any aqueous solution) it should be OK to ignore them . So to form hydrogen gas at the cathode the reaction that occurs (in reality) is :

2 water molecules + 2 electrons → one molecule of hydrogen gas + 2 hydroxide ions with a standard redox potential of -0.83V

No, that's not a correct approach. To be exact you should not just ignore H+ presence, but take into account everything, including partial pressure of hydrogen (good luck with, as it is initially zero), and plug it all into the Nernst equation. You should do the same with your other reaction, remembering that initial concentration of OH- is not zero either (actually it is identical to the initial concentration of H+), and that -0.83 V is given for a solution in a standard state (which means concentration of OH- equal to 1M).

This is by no means a trivial prediction, but as long as you are not expected to do a very thorough analysis, just comparing -0.44 V with 0 V should do. Perhaps with some estimate of the H+ reduction potential based on just pH.
 

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