What formula should I use to find velocity in a newtonian physics problem?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an airplane's takeoff, specifically focusing on calculating its speed after traveling a certain distance under constant acceleration. The problem provides distance, time, and initial velocity, prompting questions about the appropriate formulas to use for finding the final speed.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between distance, time, and speed in the context of constant acceleration. There are differing opinions on whether to calculate acceleration first or to use average velocity. Some suggest using simultaneous equations, while others mention the potential of drawing a velocity-time graph.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between average and final velocity, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to apply.

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Participants express confusion over the different approaches suggested by peers, particularly regarding the necessity of finding acceleration before determining final speed. The original poster indicates a lack of familiarity with the subject matter, which may influence the discussion dynamics.

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I'm a newbie to this subject, so forgive me if what I'm asking supposed to be common sense. :confused:

An airplane travels 280 m down the runway before taking off. If it starts from rest, moves with a constant acceleration, and becomes airborne in 8.00 s, what is its speed in m/s, when it takes off?

So, I think what is given is d=280m then t=8.00s and it is implied that it's initial velocity is 0. And what is asked is the speed or velocity...

Here's the thing. My friend keeps telling me that I should find first acceleration before speed, but I keep saying that I can simply just use d/s. Then, that conversation left me confused.

So, what formula should I really use?
 
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You should think about how distance traveled by a plane and it's speed change with time when acceleration is constant. Then you'll be able to get answer from simultaneous equations.
 
d/s will give you the average velocity over the displacement s. It won't tell you the final velocity. However, for constant acceleration there is a relationship between the average velocity and the final velocity after a given distance. Your textbook or class notes should have it.
 
amochang said:
I'm a newbie to this subject, so forgive me if what I'm asking supposed to be common sense. :confused:

An airplane travels 280 m down the runway before taking off. If it starts from rest, moves with a constant acceleration, and becomes airborne in 8.00 s, what is its speed in m/s, when it takes off?

So, I think what is given is d=280m then t=8.00s and it is implied that it's initial velocity is 0. And what is asked is the speed or velocity...

Here's the thing. My friend keeps telling me that I should find first acceleration before speed, but I keep saying that I can simply just use d/s. Then, that conversation left me confused.

So, what formula should I really use?

it is possible to solve this problem by first finding the acceleration - as your friend says. Finding the acceleration is like a half-way point.

It is also possible to use d/s - but that also is a halfway point in the calculation, not the final answer.

You could even draw a velocity-time graph, and get the answer from that.
 

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