What Happens When Gram-Schmidt Is Applied to Linearly Dependent Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Gram-Schmidt process to a set of vectors, specifically when some vectors are linearly dependent. The original poster questions the outcome when applying this process to vectors where two are independent and one is dependent on the span of the others.

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  • Participants explore the implications of applying Gram-Schmidt to a set of vectors with linear dependencies, questioning whether the process will fail and the reasons behind such a failure. Some suggest trying concrete examples to observe the behavior of the process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions and exploring different interpretations of the Gram-Schmidt process in the context of linear dependence. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance is offered regarding the implications of dependencies on the orthonormalization process.

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Participants note that if a vector in the set is contained within the span of previous vectors, it may lead to complications, such as division by zero, during the Gram-Schmidt process. This highlights the importance of understanding the linear independence of the vectors involved.

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I have a question about this process.

What will happen if this process is applied to a set of vectors {v1, v2, v3} where v1 and v2 are linearly independent, but v3 belongs to set Span(v1,v2). Will the process fail? If it fails, why does it fail?
 
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Doesn't anyone possibly know the answer to this question? Or can anyone even give me some direciton on it?
 
Have you tried it out on a concrete example? What happens?
 
The goal of GM is to take a nonorthogonal set of linearly independent functions and construct an orthogonal basis such that the the span of the original set is contained in the span of the orthonormalized set. This is a key ingridient to proving its most natural corollarly: that every finite dimensional inner product space admits an orthonormal basis. Note that vj is not contained in span(v1,v2,...vj-1) since (v1,...vj) is linearly independent and therefore vj is not in the span(e1,...,ej-1). If vj is in the span(v1,...vj-1) for any j, then carrying out GS merely produces a particular element which lies in the span(e1,...ej-1). It does nothing to further the purpose of GS, however; it does not destroy it, so long as your original set does contain elements which lie outside the span of its companions. But, if j=Dim(V) where V was an arbitrary space, and vk was an element of span(v1,...vk-1) for k<j, then continuing this process would result in an orthonormal set which DOES not form a basis for V, it merely spans/forms a basis or some subset/space of V.
 
mpm said:
I have a question about this process.
What will happen if this process is applied to a set of vectors {v1, v2, v3} where v1 and v2 are linearly independent, but v3 belongs to set Span(v1,v2). Will the process fail? If it fails, why does it fail?

Eventually, you will wind up having to divide by 0.
 

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